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| | | Every country in the U.N. Secruity Council has dirt under the nails, Syria is no better or worse. Actually, having Syria there is may at least "balance the ticket" in a way. Syria has also been the victim of Israeli occupation so obviously Israel (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) You can't really mean that, can you? (...) Yes. Give the state sponsors of terrorism a seat too, that seems fair to me. ++Lar (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | (...) Why not? (...) Like I said, everybody has dirt under the nails. What about our CIA? What about Iran-Contra? What about us becoming pals with the Somolian warlords? What about us being pals with the Saudis, who are Wahabis just like the Taliban (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Because, warts and all, some countries are better, some are worse. Or do you really think that all countries are the same across the board, all are equally culpable? No matter HOW many examples of US malfeasance you post you are never ever (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | | | (...) <snipped> Sticks and stones...Everybody's entitled to an opinion. You see it your way, I see it mine, and I'm not concerned about your appraisal of my credibility. Dan (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Oh, and if you really truly are delusional enought to think all countries are equally bad, this REALLY ought to get you foaming. (URL) a defense of Berlusconi (who happened to be 100% correct when he said "We should be conscious of the (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Dave Low
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| | | | | | | (...) breaking down the proposition now: (...) "We should be aware of the advantage that modern liberal democracy derived from the spoils of empire..." (...) "followed by the past sixty years of broad based consumption..." (...) "that now means (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | | (...) Sticks and stones... Dan (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Sticks and stones may break my bones, but new ideas will never penetrate my preconceived notions, and I'm completely safe from ever having to reconsider the truth! Is that your version? Really Dan, when you get around to addressing the ideas (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | | (...) This is rich coming from you! As I have said before (and you have not denied it) you are in deluded denial regarding the situation in both Sudan and Iraq. The *facts* have failed penetrate your preconceived notions. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Silence is not assent. Who has time to deny everything you allege? Not me, it would deny me time to do anything else. But I specifically deny this (that I am in denial about Sudan or Iraq), if it will make you happy. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) ... but you offer no justification. How simple your life must be. I almost envy you. (...) I offer facts, you offer unbased opinion. Ho hum. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | (...) What has Holland to do with anything? Are you saying that Syria should loose its place to Holland(!)? Syria must be bad, this is what Israel's UN ambassador said: "It fails even at the regional level to display any contribution to peace and (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Read for comprehension, Scott. Not saying any such thing. Dan is saying that all countries are equally bad. I just gave an example of a randomly selected country (just like I did the last time I asked Dan) that I think is less bad than Syria. (...) (23 years ago, 10-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) Are you saying this war should change to a war against Islam? You are welcome to your new friend: From the Guardian ==+== Mr Berlusconi is living proof that there is nothing inherently superior about western civilisation. The Italian prime (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) No, but I am saying that when people here and elsewhere pop up and say "we're no better than they are" that those people are delusional, disingenious or deliberately distortive. (...) He's not my friend. He just happens to be right about (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Dave Low
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| | | | | | | (...) Before I start feeling any worse about myself (j/k folks), my comments at (URL) weren't meant to _refute_ Berlusconi as such, just to indicate that he is coming from a very biased perspective. I suspect there's a link between his "politics" (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) This is nothing more than cultural arrogance. (...) Nope, the truth. smear (ACCUSATION) noun [C] an accusation which is unpleasant, unreasonable or unlikely to be true and which is made publicly with the intention of harming a person's (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea? —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) Larry, tell me which nations on the U.N. Secruity Council have NOT sponsored terrorism. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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