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| | | (...) Nah, that's about the figure accepted for war-related mass democide. Stalin's tally is *on top of that*. (...) Now, this is interesting. What's the political deal you heard? I know that the Germans were evacuating soldiers and civilians en (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China —Dave Low
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| | | | | (...) I really enjoyed the scope of this guy's work: lots of comparison and synthesis, mostly from a global perspective. His fun stuff is neat too -- I particularly liked the alternative history of Moslem Australia. (URL) (23 years ago, 7-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | (...) any better an idea than I do who he is? Not having real contact info forces me to double check a lot of his sources as litmus tests, but he's really done a very good job of documentation. best LFB (23 years ago, 7-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China —Dave Low
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| | | | | | (...) I couldn't find any more informative references to or by him either -- his comments on Ayn Rand's propagandists were sufficient guarantee of reliability for me as a layperson: (URL) (#18) --DaveL (23 years ago, 7-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) He's a twit. Quoting: The Berlin Wall (1961-89) Berlin: the grim and lonely front line in the Cold War. What exactly happens on the front lines of a non-event? Border guards glare at one another; they patrol the barbed wire perimeter, and (...) (23 years ago, 7-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China —Mladen Pejic
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| | | | | | | (...) "symbolic"? (...) Here [1] it says that 171 people were killed trying to escape. Just checking/correcting facts... I don't really know the exact number or if this source is correct. [1] (URL) (...) Mladen Pejic, over and out! (URL) (23 years ago, 7-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China (long forgotten subject!) —Pedro Silva
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| | | | | | (...) No, you did not. But I must say it doesn't take *a wall* to prevent people from fleeing (see "Iron curtain"), and people got shot and killed while crossing borders in different contexts: before 1974 you could get killed by the portuguese (...) (23 years ago, 7-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China (long forgotten subject!) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) OK, great. So how was this a non event? Wasn't aware that millions of enslaved people was a "non event". (enslaved by the USSR's territorial aggrandisement, by the way, I haven't forgotten I have some stuff to come back to...) He's a twit. (23 years ago, 8-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China (long forgotten subject!) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | (...) Yeh, but note it's a personal call, and he also points out (elsewhere) that "overrated" doesn't mean "unimportant." (...) Dunno, never met the guy. LFB (23 years ago, 8-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China (long forgotten subject!) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Which is a dodge. The way that little ditty is written, he is clearly trying to minimise or whitewash what was going on. Comparing it to the US/Canada border??? Come ON! (...) Sometimes you don't need to meet someone in person to tell what (...) (23 years ago, 8-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Bummer of the Week: LEGO Made in China —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | (...) Actually, I understood that, but was trying to make the point in a simpler fashion. Alas, I seem to have failed. (...) It was agreed that the British and Americans would not advance on Berlin to make sure the Russians had the "honor" of taking (...) (23 years ago, 7-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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