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| | | (...) You are mixing tone and content. In any event, I was happy to have my tone called "polemic": (URL) (...) That is because I am talking about now. You are talking about the past. The UK's colonial past does not make it ok for Israelto torture (...) (24 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | Snippage, as usual. (...) that I would relish being called a braggart... L0L ) I like the last definition (of a related word) in your cite (thanks for that, by the way, always nice to have a different source than good old dictionary.com) "Her (...) (24 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) I am tempted to say the same about you, but I won't. (...) Hmm. Rather a simplistic argument. (...) You are free to criticise what ever you wish. I am not going to put you in jail for your political views. (...) Nope, that shows my general (...) (24 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) Yes, two of them. I made them already. But for your benefit, since you missed it: 1. You seem to be saying that Israel and the PLO are equally bad. This is incorrect. The PLO is far worse. To say that they are equal shows your bias. 2. The UK (...) (24 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | (...) In your opinion. Black is black. I am not going to get into a "who is the baddest" debate... it would be rather pointless. (...) You have no idea what I am "willing to acknowledge". As I said before, you are talking about the past. Considering (...) (24 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | (...) Then what are you willing to acknowledge, beyond what we've seen here? There's no reason in this long .debate to think that Larry's wrong on that score. (...) The past should be absolutely crucial in considering "the real world." The problem (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) The point I think I am failing to acknowledge is that Britain’s past is any justification for Israel to torture and murder today. Although, I am sure it would make a very convenient defence / smokescreen. (...) Yes, but considering the past is (...) (24 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | (...) And that remark doesn't show your bias? Please be so kind as to explain to all of us why the PLO is "far worse"... Dan (24 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) The intifadah. ++Lar (24 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | (...) And....? I believe intifadah means "uprising" so what are the Palistinians rising up against? Still wondering how the PLO is "far worse" than the Israeli government? Here's some food for thought: (URL) (24 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | (...) Is that the thing where Israel have shot dead a bunch of kids, bombed homes and carried out assasinations? How does that show the PLO is "far worse"? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | | (...) And we're still waiting to hear his explanation for that statement. While were waiting: (URL) (24 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | (...) And we're still waiting to hear his explanation for that statement. While we're waiting: (URL) (24 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Don't hold your breath. I don't respond to every distortion Scott slings, or even very many of them, actually. (...) by my characterisation of the PLO as far worse. ++Lar (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Daniel Jassim
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| | | | | | | (...) Well, that's just dandy though it doesn't stand to reason why you'd take the side of the oppressor? If that's your attitude, I can only say that I strongly feel you are choosing to fill your head with the garbage the mainstream media would (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I suppoose that reflects your biased standpoint. If found it rather depressing. I am sure sites are out there which can show the "other side" which would be just as bad. (...) Don't be too hard on Larry on this - he can't help being (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | (...) I suppoose that reflects your biased standpoint. I found it rather depressing. I am sure sites are out there which can show the "other side" which would be just as bad. (...) Don't be too hard on Larry on this - he can't help being (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | | | (...) As I see, you can be quite reasonable when it is for your advantage, right?..:-) Selçuk (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | (...) I am always reasonable. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | | | | | (...) Knowing yourself is nice, but better to leave this to other readers..:-) Selçuk (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) No distortion Larry. Just facts. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: A question of remembrance... —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | (...) Intifadeh (1979) actually refers to the open uprising against Israel by the population, not terrorist actions per se. The people throwing stones and bottles at tanks and soldiers are the symbol of the intifadeh, not snipers or car bombs or the (...) (24 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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