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(...) BZZT, wrong. Thanks for playing, though. If you want to use logic terminology to restate my challange, please do it correctly. Statement: A is true if and only if all occurances of B are true. Statement: B is false. Reconcile away. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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James Simpson: (...) James, If God used evolution to create (and an integral part of evolution is struggle and death) then God created by using death. In Romans 5:12, God said that death entered the world as a result of sin. Did God create sin so (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is an example of what I mentioned earlier about Creationists altering fact to fit their belief system (which should not be dignified with the term theory or hypothesis). (...) If by "Indians" you're referring to Native Americans, then (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Bruce Schlickbernd: (...) But that can be reconciled with 6,000 years. When one examines the early Chinese dynasties, one can find that precisely documented dynasties only go back as far as about 2000 B.C. The first true Chinese dynasty was started (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Robert gets to invalidate logic (was Re: Science and beliefs (was Re: Alien races))
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(...) There no reason to say this except to let him know that you don't really believe he's right and your wrong, i.e. you *do* have a problem letting him believe you're wrong and he's right. Bruce (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would modify this as follows: Facts Exist Man form hypotheses and theories which he tests via the scientific method Evolutionists find that their hypotheses do not always fit the facts, so they re-evaluate and re-formulate those hypotheses (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That would be a long list. Just for starters: King James Version New King James Version Aramaic Bible Revised Standard Version The Book of the Law of the Lord, 1856 Edition The Douay-Rheims Bible New International Version New American Standard (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Science can't prove whether it is a "young earth" or an "old earth," so everyone has to *believe* that one of them is true. So it is a "belief" thing for everyone. (...) I understand where you're coming from and what this means, so I take no (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Bruce Schlickbernd: (...) hand, (...) to (...) Evidence I gave did not *prove* creation, nor did I say that it did. But the evidence can *support* creationism. Here's a few premises: Facts exist Man discovers facts using the scientific method (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In terms of reliability, I believe that the basic kerygma (the proclamation of religious truth, if you will) of the Judeo-Christian faith has been passed down through the centuries "in a reliable manner" such that we may have reasonable trust (...) (24 years ago, 6-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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