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(...) Ah-- then we shall certainly have differences. My own moral theory arrives at the conclusion that there are no absolutes in morality. (...) And I'd argue that it CAN be. Not necessarily that it's EVER actually BEEN ok, but that the possibility (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ack! In the past you have repeatedly advocated that education should be doled out in quantities proportional to the ability to learn. Now you are saying that it should be equal. Just for clarity, which of these stances do you actually agree (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I noted that you had expressed this moral theory in another thread but I didn't backtrack far enough to find it. Can you point me to the post? (...) Does it come down to behavior x is only immoral when those doing the behaving think that it (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Snip most, hope to come back later... address a tiny fraction. (...) We differ strongly. I suspect this is moral relativism. I reject that... I go even farther than rejection. I think there are moral absolutes and no government, even with the (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) At the risk of being accused of jury tampering by making you aware of your rights and duties as a juror(1), check this out: (URL) discusses "jury nullification". This is a unique power that American jurors have... to find a defendent innocent (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, difference of opinion on our parts, I think. By my moral theory, slavery is not necessarily morally wrong. Is that to say that I think slavery in the US wasn't wrong? No. In fact, I'm pretty sure it WAS wrong. Basically, my morality (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, I tricked her into it by bringing up the topic and not actually saying the magic word. :-) (actually I think that counts as a loss too. LOL) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I think, from a UK perspective, it is a good idea to aim to give kids an equal level of education. However, supplying equal $/head is a very simplistic way of doing this - unless we assume kids are a mass produced homogenous product. The cost (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) While I tend to be on the side of "work within the system" over "revolt", I am glad that some people feel so strongly about their cause they are willing to go to jail for it. In fact, I am glad about this even when I don't agree with their (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One thing which to my mind makes property tax supported schools at least somewhat palatable is that in most parts of the country you do have at least some choice as to how much property tax you will pay, and what kind of school system (of (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Shiri Dori wrote: <snip> (...) Oops.. you just lost the debate... :-) :-) :-) Frank (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Snippy snip (...) Can you elaborate on this? Slavery is morally wrong and it doesn't matter to me what the law says about it. A government that abides it (yes, even the US government of the time) doesn't have consent of the governed in that area, (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm.. not necessarily, but most probably. Mostly it's to say that I don't have a problem with you breaking the law, so long as you don't put moral fault on the government for punishing your lack of adherence to it. Basically, should those who (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) d'Oh. Shame on me. I mean when *buf == '\0'. :-) --Todd (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yep, I can totally see that. For God's sake, I don't think that one should *always* abide by the laws, especially when reaching such atrocities like your example. Larry has a point too there, when the law just goes too far then I'd rather not (...) (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Might wanna throw in a comment at the top stating that behavior is undefined (and may even result in a segmentation fault) if fixURL(buf) is called when *buf == "\0". As written above, code assumes that strlen(buf) >= 1. --Todd (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm biased. I live in Ada, Amway pays a lot of my school taxes, and I have a lot of friends and relatives that work for Amway (the corporate entity) in various capacities, including my sister-in-law, several nonLEGO good friends and my LEGO (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I don't have the direct personal experience, but one of my wife's neighbors was in Amway, and ended up having to declare bankruptcy - the minimum order sizes necessary to get anything meant they ended up with a huge stock of stuff they couldn't sell (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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As loathe as I am to generate any more posting traffic in off-topic.debate, I have something to ask of Lugnetters that I know doesn't belong anyplace else. I have a friend who has become involved in a MLM- Quixtar, to be exact. I want to dissuade (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Big ugly trolls (was Re: New stuff on my webpage ...)
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If you guys want to continue this, please do it in debate; don't plug up .castle with this kind of babble. Thanks, -Chris FUT .off-topic.debate (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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