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  Re: guns, guns, guns (was: demographics (was: My Gun Control Rant))
 
(...) I agree. (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
(...) First, with out defining it crisply, you do (sort of) know what I mean and agree that it's a good idea to avoid it, right? Can I take the "I know it when I see it" cop out? :-) Kidding aside, I would tend to define it along the lines of the (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
(...) Question: What's "junk science"? Probably important to define it/back it up before requesting that it's not used by Steve.... Is there another thread one might use for reference of such a definition? DaveE (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Low writes: <snip> (...) Me too. Let's see if it can be done without "junk science". I have my doubts. (...) This isn't a viewpoint I agree with, but it's one that is a lot more to my liking than strict creationism. (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: guns, guns, guns (was: demographics (was: My Gun Control Rant))
 
(...) Is it your assertion then, that the changes in government in states such as the DDR, Poland, Czechoslovokia, Hungary, etc. had nothing whatever to do with guns, that is, that they were completely non violent, and no guns or weapons anywhere in (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Description vs. argument
 
(...) This can be taken many ways. If intended as a slur about our arts/literature/media, etc... it's irrelevant, and untrue. If intended as a comment on melting pots vs. many separate cultures, it's also untrue. The US has more of a unified culture (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: guns, guns, guns (was: demographics (was: My Gun Control Rant))
 
(...) I think you underestimate what someone who REALLY believes they are right, and are REALLY willing to die for their cause is capable of doing. Governments have been doing this for over 200 years (that underestimation is what lost the American (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: guns, guns, guns (was: demographics (was: My Gun Control Rant))
 
(...) If we have so little culture then why are US movies and TV shows so popular around the world? Now I grant that most movies and TV shows aren't terribly refined, but then most enetertainment for the masses isn't. I think there is just as much (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: guns, guns, guns (was: demographics (was: My Gun Control Rant))
 
(...) Very true. I’d like to add to the list much of the eastern European states which have “come in from the cold”. It is a gross generalisation, and I hope I do not offend anyone, but much of these popular uprising have been against oppressive / (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: guns, guns, guns (was: demographics (was: My Gun Control Rant))
 
(...) There are those who say the US has no culture. (...) Larry I have questioned your "freedoms" many times - and each time you fail to answer me. Until you are willing to answer those points, keep you vague assertions to yourself. :-) (...) There (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
(...) There is so much that is wrong in this statement I hardly know where to start. Perhaps I should say that if people feel "creationism vs evolution" is ground ploughed to desert, I'll leave my contribution at this one post. To focus the debate (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: guns, guns, guns (was: demographics (was: My Gun Control Rant))
 
(...) Are guns necessary for a revolution? Perhaps non-violent movements can more effectively create social change: Gandhi and post-colonial India, South Africa in the past decade. Interestingly both these countries have examples that show how a (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) time I promise) (URL) -TiM NB, CA (URL) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) Sorry to reply to my own message, but I found this interesting page: (URL) -TiM NB, CA (URL) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My Gun Control Rant
 
(...) Well seeing as we have such interesting diversified money you can't expect me to keep track of all of it :)...dumb yankees have to actually look at their money and half the time you don't even know what you've got at a glance at your wallet. (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: guns, guns, guns (was: demographics (was: My Gun Control Rant))
 
(...) Indeed there is. We have a culture of freedom, or did, in the US. (...) And some of us think that to be willing to go along (with majorities, with tyrannical laws, etc..) instead of *want* that freedom is, in turn, a little crazy. Actually, (...) (24 years ago, 14-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: guns, guns, guns (was: demographics (was: My Gun Control Rant))
 
(...) There is a cultural difference between us which makes you think this is a logical mindset, but, at the same time, makes me believe you are a little crazy. :-) Scott A (24 years ago, 13-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  guns, guns, guns (was: demographics (was: My Gun Control Rant))
 
(...) I _do_ live in a society where guns are not needed for defense. But luckily, they are an option. I know that's a bit obtuse, but I'll go on to an answer that you might like better... Sure. All things being equal, I'd rather that people not (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
(...) Well-- I guess my issues here are that in order to stay focused on a topic, one must often branch out to its extremities, implications, and more importantly, it's roots, no matter how vast. And further, it is often helpful to examine areas (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
We keep branching off into areas that could each entail lengthy discussion on their own. I'll try to provide only brief answers to your main points in the hopes of us staying focused. (...) Certainly scientific evidence is preferable to testimonial (...) (24 years ago, 13-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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