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(...) <SNIPPED> Sorry to barge in. I think you could argue, as you do, that both your hypothetical adult & foetus could be considered victims in murder. However, the if a foetus were to cease to exist, society would not notice - there would be no (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Did you not get it on purpose? (...) I did. Murder of an adult and murder of a fetus. You're turning it around wrong. (...) The inconvenience that my scenario runs paralell to is that of bearing a child for nine months in your abdomen. (...) I don't (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
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(...) I think that most criminals are first caught during their youth. That aside, I'm sure there are some who live long full lives of crime and never get caught. I still suspect that if someone can be hardened, they can be softened. (...) Yes. And (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Parental strategies? (was: Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne)
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(...) not (...) I believe that love (real love) can't be turned on and off. It would sometimes be easier if it could. But just because you can't turn your love for your kids on and off, doesn't mean that you can't pretend that you can and abuse them (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm pretty sure that in the UK a coin is tossed in the event of a tie. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Under New Mexico law, if the candidates end up tied, the winner could be determined by having the two men sit for a hand of poker -- with the state going to the winner. New Mexico statute requires that in case of a tie, "the determination as (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "The heavy rains and cool weather were blamed for the high mosquito population." Now, while some humans might consider that a bad thing, I'm sure the swallows, bats, (farmers?), dragon flies, etc, might say otherwise. (...) Looks to me like (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Can you (or John, or anyone) supply a sentence demonstrating how 'blame' can be used without indicating that something bad has taken place? I'm quick to use the dictionary too, but I don't think that it is perfectly reflective of our use of (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But (...) granted (...) in (...) in. (...) Well, let's see.... if you want to apply the same logic, you need to choose a comparable crime. So it couldn't be one that either of us would consider a mere inconvenience, could it? (Or am I wrong to (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) i think it's the negative connotation 'blame' carries with it. (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) *A-hem* Please go reread my posting. Especially the first couple lines, before the quoted material. I was *assuming*, not *implying*. Steve (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This assumes that criminals are caught upon their first infraction. A criminal doesn't become "hardened" simply by spending time in the joint; a life of criminal activity, inside or outside of prison, will harden someone very effectively. (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) lol Great minds think alike, eh Dave!?;-) John! (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, a parent's love should be unconditional for their children. Even so, I'm not sure one can really turn love on and off for their kids. (...) I tested my theory with my own kids last night. They actually gave me that answer. Maybe I have (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) D'oh! John beat me to it! Dave! (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just for clarification, dictionary.com lists: blame (blam) v. tr. blamed, blam·ing, blames. 1. To hold responsible. 2. To find fault with; censure. 3. To place responsibility for (something): blamed the crisis on poor planning. (URL) So, while (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well lessee. From Dictionary.com: blame v. tr. blamed, blam·ing, blames. 1.To hold responsible. 2.To find fault with; censure. 3.To place responsibility for (something): blamed the crisis on poor planning. n. 1.The state of being responsible (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) it. They don't know how. Prison _could_ (but does not) teach them how to do it right. (...) pick (...) would (...) Or if they were released with the skills to make it on the outside. And that way we don't have blood on our hands. (...) be (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) are (...) makes it (...) From this note and the couple of replies, it sounds like you think that "blame" is somehow synonymous with "responsibility." It isn't. Blame include fault. Fault for doing something wrong. You claim that JohnD's note (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think we're talking semantics here. If I blame myself for having eaten dinner, it means I am taking responsibility for the choice to have eaten. "You have no one to blame but yourself" is an expression meaning "You are responsible" -John (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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