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Re: From Harry Browne
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:08:17 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Maggie Cambron writes:
> [big snip]
> > I suspect I would choose to terminate the pregnancy-- in the case of a Down's
> > Syndrome child, I have no idea what I would do. And I hope never to be faced
> > with such a decision. But I do want it to be MY decision, with input from my
> > husband and my doctor. I want to examine my own conscience, I do not want
> > some
> > strangers in Washington, possibly with entirely different views from my own
> > dictating to me what I can or cannot do with my body. Yes, I would be making
> > that decision knowing I decide the fate of a living being inside my body. • But
> > please, let ME be the one to make that decision. If it happened to you or • your
> > partner, I wouldn't dream of butting in. I would hope that I could be • granted
> > the same courtesy.
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> I believe the same logic can be applied to any act that we consider crimes.
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> e.g. If someone inconvenienced me, I suspect I would choose to kill them. "I
> hope never to be faced with such a decision. But I do want it to be MY
> decision...I want to examine my own conscience, I do not want some strangers • in
> Washington, possibly with entirely different views from my own dictating to me
> what I can or cannot do with my body. Yes, I would be making that decision
> knowing I decide the fate of a living being... But please, let ME be the one
> to make that decision. If it happened to you...I wouldn't dream of butting • in.
> I would hope that I could be granted the same courtesy."
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> How do you feel about that?
Well, let's see.... if you want to apply the same logic, you need to choose a
comparable crime. So it couldn't be one that either of us would consider a
mere inconvenience, could it? (Or am I wrong to think you would insinuate that
I might consider abortion such a trivial matter?) How about the crime of rape,
which, while not entirely the same type of violation (a fetus does not
intentionally violate a woman, a rapist does not necessarily have to be
destroyed to be stopped, etc.), is comparable in that it is a violation of
someone's body. Then it isn't quite such a stretch, is it? Especially if the
only way to stop the rapist would be to kill him (by the nature of the crime
I'm assuming it is a male). I imagine the thought of killing someone who
was raping you or someone close to you would cross your mind. (I believe they
call that self-defense.) So no, I wouldn't fault you for applying that logic.
(If I were you, though, I think I'd tone down the melodramatics a little! ;-) )
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> Your appeal has no weight with me. I might end up being prochoice. I
> think that's how I lean. But not because that's what someone wants. Only
> because I decide it's right.
Of course. And if what you decide is right differs from what I decide is
right, I promise I won't butt in.
Maggie
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Message has 1 Reply:
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| Did you not get it on purpose? (...) I did. Murder of an adult and murder of a fetus. You're turning it around wrong. (...) The inconvenience that my scenario runs paralell to is that of bearing a child for nine months in your abdomen. (...) I don't (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: From Harry Browne
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Maggie Cambron writes: [big snip] (...) your (...) I believe the same logic can be applied to any act that we consider crimes. e.g. If someone inconvenienced me, I suspect I would choose to kill them. "I hope never to be (...) (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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