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Subject:	Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:46:51 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes: > [Criminals] should be rehabilitated on their first time in. Not after they > could reasonably be hardened criminals. This assumes that criminals are caught upon their first infraction. A criminal doesn't become "hardened" simply by spending time in the joint; a life of criminal activity, inside or outside of prison, will harden someone very effectively. > First let's get some real compassion into our justice system. Maybe then we > won't need much of a penal system. I'm sensing what might be an inconsistency here; we (in general here on OT.debate) accept that people are ultimately responsible for their own actions, as long as they are unimpaired mentally. What compassion, then, is due a so-called hardened criminal, or even a soft-and-cuddly criminal, who, as a a self-responsible adult, has nonetheless chosen to flout the legal system? I understand what you've said elsewhere about criminals working somehow to satisfy their debt (to society, to an individual, etc.), but what about the criminal who refuses to do so? You appear to have suggested that the criminal will in some way "want" to work off his debt, but this seems unrealistically optimistic. How would a system accomodate and/or treat the criminal who is literally unrepentant and who truly has no intention of working off his debt? Dave!

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		Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
(...) I think that most criminals are first caught during their youth. That aside, I'm sure there are some who live long full lives of crime and never get caught. I still suspect that if someone can be hardened, they can be softened. (...) Yes. And (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
(...) it. They don't know how. Prison _could_ (but does not) teach them how to do it right. (...) pick (...) would (...) Or if they were released with the skills to make it on the outside. And that way we don't have blood on our hands. (...) be (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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