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  Re: Rush: "Lego is a Tool for 4 year olds"
 
Frank, (...) Yes, but I repeat myself many times: Since these people that are taking these test, mostly Hispanics and African Americans that would not normally get in due to the admission policies (I took this from the article, BTW), they use this (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rush: "Lego is a Tool for 4 year olds"
 
Kevin, (...) That's what the article said, which I mentioned in the quote earlier. (...) Mine was probably CAD and drafting classes, along with history. Again, I think this is just a way to get around the recent court rulings about affirmative (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cheap American shot (Was: NEW Mindstorms set shown (with picture!))
 
(...) Yes. But the single area where the US is ludicrously falling behind - that is to say, falling behind more and more as time goes by - is pre-university education. A major reason is the basic one-school- fits-all system which succeeds at pushing (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rush: "Lego is a Tool for 4 year olds"
 
(...) What's so wrong about colleges looking for people with "initiative, leadership and an ability to work in groups?" You yourself said that those are real world issues. Why shouldn't colleges be preparing people for the real world? (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rush: "Lego is a Tool for 4 year olds"
 
Tom, (...) It might be, but doesn't have anything to do with testing people to get around affirmative action rulings. (...) So, giving an unfair advantage to people is being fair? (...) I took many classes over 5 years of going to college, Tom, and (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rush: "Lego is a Tool for 4 year olds"
 
(...) That's why I said "in general" Obviously there are exceptions, and you would expect to find them here on LUGNET. (...) I guess we would have to look at the motive. If the motive was in fact to skirt the law then it's wrong, and probably not (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rush: "Lego is a Tool for 4 year olds"
 
(...) Being a Rush anti-fan (I think he's a bleeding moron), I don't agree (not just because he's Rush, but because he's WRONG). Using Lego in this way is an excellent test of spatial skills, pinpointing people with the right skills for many (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cheap American shot (Was: NEW Mindstorms set shown (with picture!))
 
Clint, I fully supported you up until the WWII comment. It belittles the contributions made by all the people who fought for freedom around the world, including Americans. I am Canadian, and have had both Canadian and American relatives die in WWII, (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cheap American shot (Was: NEW Mindstorms set shown (with picture!))
 
(...) You will find that there are many forms of democracy around the world, and many would argue that they are freer then in the American system. Despite what a lot of Americans believe theirs was not the first democracy, and not the model of (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rush: "Lego is a Tool for 4 year olds"
 
(...) Note- Not all Conservatives do not favor innovations. I am VERY conservative but I am also open to hear new ideas, and to see the results of those ideas. -Rich (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rush: "Lego is a Tool for 4 year olds"
 
Kevin, (...) I am a conservative, and I love the brick. Stereotypes of any trait don't do justice, one that has been used in debate too much, IMO. (...) Avoiding the law and court ruling is not innovating, IMO. It is ducting the real issues. (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rush: "Lego is a Tool for 4 year olds"
 
< cross posted to off-topic-debate > Rich, (...) Hmm... Being a Rush fan and a definite AFOL, I can see the logic of his thinking. Testing people on the ability to build anything, regardless of how good they might be, is a strange way of testing (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Can they do like this?
 
(...) True, doing anything excessively will lead to some kind of failiure. KL (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rush: "Lego is a Tool for 4 year olds"
 
It's simple. Rush is very conservative. Conservatives in general do not like the artistic or creative elements of society, which is what LEGO products encourage. Conservatives in general also do not favor innovations in education, (of which this (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cheap American shot (Was: NEW Mindstorms set shown (with picture!))
 
(...) In addition to an industrial base which was not in danger of being bombed, and on top of that a growing momentum of industrialization. I would throw in though that I believe our freer system of government almost certainly amplified the (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cheap American shot (Was: NEW Mindstorms set shown (with picture!))
 
(...) I'll admit that I flushed with patriotic indignation when I read Mr. Jezek's post. As a geographer, I can, however, concur with Mr. Jezek that the American public school system often does not equip students with an adequate understanding of (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Can they do like this?
 
(...) Except the casino owners who are, after all, engaged in a legitimate business, in a country where it is legal, and who now have been impacted. If you really think this is a good idea, there's not much more I can say. There is nothing (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cheap American shot (Was: NEW Mindstorms set shown (with picture!))
 
(...) There's not a lot of things that will get my "patriotic dander" up--but apparently the same thing gets Chris's up too. I'm a professional historian of modern Britain, western Europe, and modern Africa (it's a long and convoluted story (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The Nature of Evil (Was Re: Blair Witch Project - Thoughts?)
 
<snip> (...) By no means. There's a big difference in defensive vs. offensive (a false distinction) and reactive vs. proactive. Defense and offense are really the same thing; both are defined in terms of what provoked them. "Reactive" is exactly (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Blair Witch Project - Thoughts?
 
John DiRienzo wrote: < Snipped John and Adams Discussion of Blair Witch for clarity and length > (...) This is what my pastor is saying, and I tend to believe that myself. Since God (At least, in Christian and Jewish beliefs ) is without sin, any (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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