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(...) If the character was "passing for Italian (descent)" the film probably would have made a point of it. I just think you are making a mistake in presuming that since Vin Diesal is black/part-black, that he is only going to play a character that (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Moving, but also problematic. The camera zooms in on the Elder Ryan's tear-filled eyes as he meditates over the graves of his comrades. The film then immediately jumps, flashback-style, to Miller in the landing craft and proceeds from there. (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That depends on what relevance one attaches to the character’s name alone. (...) I'm happy to admit to not having watched the film enough to know the character's name. I'm happy to admit to not knowing what typical African-American surnames (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Tell that to the dead women and children on both sides. (...) "Civilized nations" do not continue (or start) a war when there is a non-violent alternative. Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually, I'd cite WWI as a great example of what Ross was getting at: Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding. The key word you are missing is "kept". If there ever was a lack of understanding destined not to (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) First, Israel's restraint has perpetuated the conflict with the Palestinians. The conflict could have easily been ended as far back as in 1967 after the victory in the 6 Day War. WWI is a classic example illustrating my point. There was no (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not sure if this is fitting in .debate, but I have a cool story on this subject: I worked in a hobby store for a few years in the late 90's, and we sold a fair range of plastic military models and detailing handbooks. There were a few (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But an utterly non-relevant one! :-) (...) Don't wanna admit that you identified the character as black incorrectly, eh? :-) (...) Right there earlier in the sequence quoted above! (...) But never by the phrase "Irish-American". And I believe (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) How would 40's America have viewed him. (A genuine question). (...) You mean like your name implies your Irishness? ;) (...) Did I? I'll take your word for it... you certainly have noted your Irishness a few times. (...) I'm not about to watch (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) This> amused me: Letter C: Chalabi. The leader of the Iraq National Congress, who is a member of the Iraq Governing Council, is now accused of having duped the Bush administration, as well as the media, into believing that Saddam Hussein (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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