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(...) The film is longer than 20 minutes. Even so, were the pathfinders on all the beaches not Brits? Also, in WW2, what would the chances of a black guy (Diesel) being in a frontline squad be? Were non-whites not relegated to logistics (as they (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I've never quite understood this criticism. How is a movie that covers the action of little more than a squad supposed to cover Juno, Gold, and Sword? D-Day is all of 20 minutes of the film. Doesn't Britain have it's own film industry? Can't (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Snip onerous list, but look out, I've gone long again. (...) There is no doubt that rule of law and property rights are problems in some places. As are local tinpots (which the first world tends to prop up in the name of trade which abhors (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey now, I *am* one of those farmers. Pumpkins, not corn. What do you recommend *I* do. I can't exactly dump the extras in developing countries, but I have donated hundreds to local school fund raisers. Is that cutting into the 3rd world (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Me neither. Probably why I didn't go see it. That and the bit about sitting in one seat for 3 hours. (...) I did watch most of BoB since it was already paid for on the cable TV. Very absorbing, but the digital film artifacts gave me headaches. (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) There have been wars since WW2 where veterans were just as brave. Have you read ChickenHawk, Dispatches or Nam? (...) Indeed. The BBC has an (URL) excellent project> underway which hopes to record personal accounts from people who were there. (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think you mean the 2nd scene; the film starts in a cemetery... still a very moving scene. Once they break through the Atlantic Wall the film nosedives. (...) Saving Private Ryan is basically Holywood's version of events; I'm not a big fan of (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes. Frankly, I am more than a little bitter that I was not taught this respect at an early age. Instead, I was schooled to despise the military. That is just not right. (...) The humility. The willingness to answer the call of duty. To serve (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Those who have older relatives that were in WW2 have no problem respecting veterans. Unfortunately, the # of people with {living} WW2 vets is quickly decreasing. It doesn't help that a lot of WW2 vets have never discussed their experiences in the (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not exactly sure why SA titled his post the way he did, but I can say that the beginning of that movie is the most powerful and moving bit of moviemaking I have ever seen. I found myself moved to tears; humbled; and felt such a sense of (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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