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(...) I think I already summed up this same position some time ago right here: either Dubya lied, or he was incompetent. Either way, he led the country into a contrived war, spending billions of dollars, the lives of our troops, ruined our country's (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The rest of your fine post is fatally weakened by the above sentence. Troll through some Bush speeches and you'll find the claims, in plain daylight. Heck, take a look at the Powell speech to the UN just prior, they're there. (to find that (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The reason I asked is because I know for a fact that nobody ever claimed such. It was blown intelligence and everybody bought it (why wouldn't they? SH, the complete idiot, wanted everyone to believe he had them. Bet he never thought we'd (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oh come on, John. You HAVE to admit the administration has been backpedaling from their previous claims, even if Dave hasn't provided specific cites from the various speeches. I mean, who has time? (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: "You're wrong--he has WoMD (...) Cites, please. Whom are you quoting? (...) Specific cites of quotations, please. (...) That's just you propping up a straw man. JOHN (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, maybe you could come close. I've seen you use "arrant nonsense"(1) in a sentence before, haven't I? (...) Tool or fool, but not cool. 1 - one of my favorite phrasings (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's look at the exact wuote then, shall we?(seeing as how it;s right at the end of the article, it's pretty easy to find...) " I am not comparing the U.S. to Nazi Germany. But one does begin to understand in all this how the Germans, another (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes, precisely. Chris (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And then go on to compare the US to Nazi Germany! Huh? JOHN (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) People seem to have to state that these days if they start talking about the US administration leading the people down the primrose path, hyping up the 'terror alerts'. Funny how the comparison is, well, not an exact fit, as hardly any (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I particularly liked "I am not comparing the U.S. to Nazi Germany." Chris (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) couldn't have said it better. There is that old adage--let history be the judge. I wonder, in 100 years what will history think of Dubya? Dave K (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nuts to that. I have you on record agreeing with me, so that's the end of it! 8^P (...) Not personal responsibility, but the particular framing of the parent/child contract. Larry gave a better alternative breakdown than I provided, so I'll (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Marriage is also a formal statement of interpersonal committment, and the legal recognition of marriage entitles the spouse to benefits and responsibilities not available to non-spouses. (...) No need for that; many same-sex couples already (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, though I remember things being a bit crowded, but obviously the only way I was remotely going to get any sleep was to share the couch... (...) have (...) I don't remember many details. I was trying to put him to bed in his room. I'm (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So this is an interesting example, because the negative effects are pretty well understood, and the costs of an alternative are pretty well understood. Of course what may not be so understood is how many other substances can cause fatal (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The answer is obvious. There are not enough of them around in these parts. I suspect they tend to live in warmer climates. Don (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Out of curiosity, why do you think we haven't passed compulsory nudity laws for those neurotics who are afraid of clothing? Chris (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, I've heard all about microwave cookbooks. Scott A (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You're almost right here, but you're doing things in the wrong order. Heal the sick people of their neuroses first. Then strike down the no longer needed laws designed to protect them from the consequences of these neuorses. (...) How can you (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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