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(...) I suppose the final slide will be SH's trial... and I doubt that will happen before Bush's "re-election"... Washington’s historic support for SH is really small beer when compared to its involvement in places like Indonesia [CIA helped kill up (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Poor Howard>: "Mr Dean said he prayed daily and had read the Bible from cover to cover. Asked about his favourite book in the New Testament, he named Job (the story of a religious man whose faith is tested by God through suffering). An hour (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think that was his point? (...) If you read the cited text you'll see data with suicides excluded: "Homicides dropped to 47 in 2001 from 84 in 1991, accidental deaths dropped to 18 from 29, while other forms of firearm deaths slipped to (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Snipped the second URL, it seems munged, but you can go upthread to find it. (...) That's a small number from a large population. Is the increase statistically significant? Also on the Australian stats cited upthread, what is/was the overall (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So, then... Is it better to play the realpolitik game, with the State Department and the CIA careerists running things with or without (mostly with) the connivance of the current administration of whatever color/stripe/type? Or... is it better (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Here.> Takes a few minutes to play. (21 years ago, 5-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Gun deaths in Toronto was up 35 percent in 2003 from 2002. 60 gun related deaths and 300 gun related injuries. 60 in a town of 8 million (one quarter the pop of Canada, btw) Eh, not the debate I want to start the year with. Dave K -"outta my (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) Gun deaths halved in past 10 years> (URL) More ammunition for gun control advocates? Scott A (21 years ago, 5-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I found this a good read: (URL) who threaten to topple Israel:> "At the heart of all this is simple mathematics. Forecasts from the United States' Population Reference Bureau show Israel's population doubling in 45 years, that of the West Bank in 21 (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is not something I advertise. Smoking is not something I am proud of and I do try to smoke in ways that do not interfere with non-smokers right to clear air. ____ (21 years ago, 30-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Inadvertantly!!!!... I seriously forgot that you smoked... it's not something I pay much attention to (except when I get a load of bricks from Europe and it starts reeking up the house as soon as I slice into the first layer of packing tape, (...) (21 years ago, 30-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay, smart Guy...... Oh, before I start my reply I would like to say I find this thread also great fun. Even if Larry pokes at me :) (...) Yes, I used to fill vending machines and I would guess that about 40% of my income was due to everyday (...) (21 years ago, 30-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let me get this straight, then: the article only mentions "pressure" by the USA, when trying to make sure others *EXEMPT* US citizens from prosecution in ICC. In essence, are you accusing your own country of covertly "bribing" those who grant (...) (21 years ago, 23-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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For those who think Bush is right in trying to get Iraq's debt lifted... perhaps you should suggest he look closer to home first: (URL) It's greed, not ideology, that rules the White House> ==+== The Kissinger transcript proves that the US gave (...) (21 years ago, 23-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not really. It was a personal recollection; as was clear in my post. (...) Was it not clear from my post that the cited page was reather light-hearted? (...) Your post was in direct response to mine; that should be clear to everyone? (...) (...) (21 years ago, 23-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) of the Cato Institute... (...) I'm mostly on the same page as you here. However I don't think the US constitution ever promised that non citizens have any particular rights outside of US borders did it? I think habeas corpus applies to (or at (...) (21 years ago, 23-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually I think Scott brought it up and the answers you seek are in the article he provided earlier in this thread: (URL) for some reason you mysteriously deleted in this post: (URL) you so desire, you can reprint the entire BBC article here. (...) (21 years ago, 23-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(moreso than usual...) From (URL) court rulings last week about the rights of prisoners held in the U.S. "war on terrorism" represent a rebuke to the Bush administration's legal tactics following the September 11 attacks, analysts and human rights (...) (21 years ago, 23-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok. I find it relevant because *you* brought it up, and have not ellaborated what you meant. It's very easy to leave vague suspicion in the air, so what I'm asking you is to be blunt and say whom, in this regard, bribes/is bribed and *to do (...) (21 years ago, 23-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, but I don't, so I can't really add much here. Perhaps if you tell us *why* you find it so relevent I might be able to reply to that. (...) No, you got me there. We usually hire professional lawyers and politicians around here to "fix" (...) (21 years ago, 23-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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