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Re: More ammunition?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:21:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote:
> > > <http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/02/1072908906612.html Gun deaths
> > > halved in past 10 years>
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> Snipped the second URL, it seems munged, but you can go upthread to find it.
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> > Gun deaths in Toronto was up 35 percent in 2003 from 2002. 60 gun related
> > deaths and 300 gun related injuries.
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> That's a small number from a large population. Is the increase statistically
> significant?
I think that was his point?
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> Also on the Australian stats cited upthread, what is/was the overall suicide
> rate in Oz? How has it changed? 4/5 of the total gun deaths across the 10
> year period seem to be suicides. Have other sorts of suicides (knives,
> exhaust, jumping in front of trains, whatever) gone up?
If you read the cited text you'll see data with suicides excluded:
"Homicides dropped to 47 in 2001 from 84 in 1991, accidental deaths dropped to
18 from 29, while other forms of firearm deaths slipped to seven from 11."
I'm not sure about this data either [that's why there is a "?" in the title];
the Port Arthur killings skew the results a little. That said, the overall drop
is quite startling.
Scott A
> What about the
> overall violent crime rate?
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> One needs to do some more digging before those stats have meaning, I think.
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| (...) Snipped the second URL, it seems munged, but you can go upthread to find it. (...) That's a small number from a large population. Is the increase statistically significant? Also on the Australian stats cited upthread, what is/was the overall (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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