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  Re: A small rant...
 
(...) Richard had made this point a while ago elsewhere and I admit that its truth gave me pause. I still think that liberating the Iraqis was a morally good thing to do, but I agree that we cannot force them to accept Freedom and Democracy. It is (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: A small rant...
 
(...) I'm getting exactly what I expected: we rolled over Saddam's army in record time with stunningly little losses, but now the venture is increasingly looked on as neo-colonialism (oh hey, let's siphon off a little of that oil because we are due (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: A small rant...
 
(...) Here for ya Hoppy! Dave K (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A small rant...
 
Kooties and Dave! save me so much trouble sometimes. What swell guys! -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A small rant...
 
(...) To reply (again...) From the Democratic Underground website (partisan, I know, but if the points are valid, who cares where the source is from?) " For some time, many on the Left have been using a working hypothesis about the invasion of Iraq. (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A small rant...
 
(...) Hi Stephan, welcome to the show that never ends! <snip> I'm sure that this stuff I just snipped has been addressed elsewhere in o.t-d, and I'm sure some will bring it up again... so I'll leave that if he could. He is a bit of a klutz though, (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A small rant...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Stefan Garcia wrote: **snip** (...) Are you talking about this? (URL) I dunno. YMMV, but it's a bit trite for my tastes, like Alan Jackson's over-praised effort. Anyway, I'd recommend checking out Ani Difranco's "Self (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Motive
 
Upload a File, Go to Prison (URL) A new bill proposed in Congress on Wednesday would land a person in prison for five years and impose a fine of $250,000 for uploading a single file to a peer-to-peer network. GOP Attorneys General Asked For (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  A small rant...
 
Hi all, Just wanted to vent/share some of my frustration with people about the ongoing Iraq war. So with that warning... To all the media, populace, and politicians whining about the war going on too long and having too many American (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) That's actually not true, or at any rate it's only true insofar as you can become a manager in no time for $7.50 an hour or less, along with guaranteed straight-rate overtime, minimal benefits, and minimal job security. (...) Given the (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) No, they're not. In most cases menial work like that is available part-time only so that the employer can avoid granting an employee much by way of the benefits that usually go to full-time workers only. Plus, how do you realistically explain (...) (21 years ago, 17-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) Mostly that statement was based from a women I used to work with who grew up in North Philadelphia and basicly told me as much. She litterally told me that they should just drop a bomb on the whole area because most of them (her relatives (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) How badly do you want out of your situation? McDonalds is hiring. Seriously. Your wife could presumably (if college educated or reasonably hard working, (and she must have been smart to select such as yourself Dave!)) become a manager in no (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Why prisons? Because law enforcement is a growth industry.
 
Prison Industry Has a Lock on Davis (URL) Davis has slashed just about every state-funded program, including education, health care and workforce development. But one institution seems to be immune from the epidemic belt-tightening: prisons. With (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Guerrilla Warfare and the 16 Words
 
US faces Iraq 'guerrilla war' (URL) One soldier at the scene of Wednesday's convoy blast wept and another raked the ground with machine gun fire. "We need more protection. We've seen enough. We've stayed in Iraq long enough," one soldier travelling (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) *snip* (...) Most sharply-biased (in either direction) media sources hope that the audience never makes the connection that you point out, and all too often thats exactly what happens. It's interesting that a common conservative tactic is to (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
I wasn't overly impressed with the nature of the rhetoric or information at those links either. And while I can't speak for the specifics of what Mr. P was referring to, something similar to it can be found here: We Have Met the Wealthy, and They (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) I dispute that statistic as non-representative of reality. Do you have a citation? Alternatively, if you're just making a rhetorical specultion, that's fine, but you need to disclaim it as such. And again, let's distinguish Federal assistance (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Backlash in the making
 
Grassroots Uprising Fights to Protect Rights and Freedoms (URL) In October 2001, Congress passed the USA PATRIOT Act setting aside many of our individual freedoms for the sake of fighting terrorism. Since then, I've worried about what's happening to (...) (21 years ago, 16-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
 
(...) Yeah so they are both full of crap. (...) I agree, that is basicly what my indended meaning was. (...) Nothing, however for the 1 person like her there are 100 that are just leaching off the system. Half my aunts and uncles come to mind. I am (...) (21 years ago, 15-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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