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  Re: It's scarier if he actually believes his own nonsense.
 
(...) Well, if we absolutely must have a mad theocrat in office, I'd certainly want the mad theocrat with God on his side. Pity that the rock of W's faith wasn't sufficient to keep him on the straight and narrow in 1992, fully 6 years after his (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) Which of course has no bias... (...) But NPR is not biased toward the US, if anything, it's biased against, and has the same information, so what IF the Economist is biased in favor of economic systems that actually work and against ones that (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  It's scarier if he actually believes his own nonsense.
 
(URL) showing that article to my SO, she asked if I thought Shrub actually believed this stuff or if he was just trying to gain greater access to a particular constituency group. My answer? See subject line. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) the most basic element of democracy is that the people decide how they want their government to work. in 1981, when US backed Saddam invaded their country, people signed up en masse to give their lives for their country. Of course, it is easy (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) Er, whoops. I'm an Economist subscriber (print edition) so it's no cost to me. But the point of the article, and the diagram in particular, is that Iran is more of a theocracy that has some elected (but basically powerless) appendages, than a (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) Hmm, is there a similar report that doesn't have a cost to view? Frank (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) Um, not exactly a democracy. You may want to do a little more research. For starters, see this article, particularly the illustration of how power actually works: (URL) entire special report that this is a part of is quite good. (...) Yup. No (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) US diplomatic ineptitude cannot be discounted, but the main reason we are hearing here for the Turkish parliament voting the way they did is pressure from Germany and, especially, France, in the form of a threat to block Turkey joining the EU. (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) oorr.. perhaps they don't want the US army so close to their border.. hmm? And what exactly is the USA doing in the area? removing a government hostile to us, and replacing it with one friendly. Iran is interesting in doing the same thing. How (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Iran: For peace in the region? No! For a piece *of* the region...
 
(...) Shh! You’ll scare the children. Just imagine the mess at the "trial" of either of these guys if they are ever caught! Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 7-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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