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(...) This is interesting. Let's just assume you are correct for a moment. Two sceneries to consider: 1948 A "Palestinian" family has been living on a plot of land for 3 years. The Israel army happens along and bulldozes the family’s house in their (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) Israeli armour has been there since they started killing civilians and stealing land in '48. (...) What do you mean "started the whole thing"? Did they invite Israel to kick them of their land in '48? I think not. (...) They are (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) is (...) The (...) That was not really meant against you or your words personally. (which I did realize were not yours anyway.) (...) Already discussed elsewhere in the thread. (...) to (...) The Israeli armour only moved in after 18 months of (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) calling (...) name (...) Ok let me clarify. No one that was living on the land ever called it Palestine or called themselves Palestinians. The current group of 'Arab refugees' have adopted the name I assume to reinforce their 'ancestoral' ties (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The (...) Is the claim that "Palestine" was made up in '48? I thought that 2500 years ago Heroditus called the land that had been occupied by the Philistines by the name of Palestine. Though I know there are references suggesting that the name (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps we should call them “'Arab' refugees from the area formally known as Palestine but now known as Israel and the occupied territories”? Or ARFTAFKAPBNKAIATOT for short? ;) Scott A denial: (psychology) an ego defense mechanism that (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is not my choice of words. I am referring to the wording of the question... nothing more (see above). However, you are quite wrong. The Balfour declaration (1917) quite clearly referred to the area as “Palestine”. I have no idea when it was (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There is no (historic) Palestine. There is no such thing as Palestinians. The whole concept was made up during the last 50 years so 'we' could stop calling them Arab refugees. (...) Wouldn't it be cool if your "ordinary Palestinians" actually (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not quite, 51.5% think the aim is to liberate all (historic) Palestinian. I expect what you believe may well be true, but that stat does not show that. (...) Mr/Ms Average (...) Is that a "Yes"? (...) So why did he agree to Oslo? (...) Just an (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Is the bravest thing Dan Rather has ever done to admit his own cowardice?
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I share your concerns Richard, but is the press not just giving the public what they want? If Mr Rather were to be more critical, would the public just go elsewhere? Is it CBS's aim to maximise profit, or to enlighten the public? Can these two aims (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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