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  Re: Customs question...
 
(...) Actually, no. Since we are essentially immune to this silly customs tax (certainly, I have never been thusly taxed as a person in the U.S.) if we white lie by marking items as "gifts" or "cadeaux" we do so for the benefit of others. I have (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Customs question...
 
(...) So who gets to decide what is morally incorrect? You? Me? Isn't breaking the law, breaking the law? (Hmm, about to kill my entire arguement here, but I guess I break the law regularly by speeding.) (...) But is this a victimless crime? If you (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Customs question...
 
(...) Is it a sin to break a law that is morally incorrect? Is it a sin to abide by a law that is morally incorrect? Stealing is way different than evading customs impositions that hinder free trade or than evading laws against victimless crimes, (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
(...) In our family there has always been a break. We usually didn't start the Christmas preparations until a week or two before. Commercially there certainly is no break (the holiday season for retail these days seems to be all year, but certainly (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
(...) I always thought of it as the closest Thursday to the 25th. Both methods yield the same date, which can range from the 22nd to the 28th. Canada also celebrates a Thanksgiving, but theirs is on a different date. It's basically a harvest (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
(...) An Kuwaiti- American friend of mine always tells me that a holiday atmosphere exists in many homes (and work places) in the USA from the week before Thanksgiving to the week after Xmas. How true is that? Scott A (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
(...) Is that anything like an eye-bitin' monkey????? ROSCO (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
(...) Well, I can give you the date: The fourth Thursday in November. That's how it works. But as for the holiday itself, it's very steeped in lore--a lot of it contradictory--but in short it's time to "give thanks" for good fortune. The context of (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: All important (was: Amtrak Told to Plan Liquidation)
 
(...) Uh...sorry. It seems that we're in essentially complete agreement. I must have misunderstood your points...or they changed...or something. Chris (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: All important (was: Amtrak Told to Plan Liquidation)
 
(...) I'm *happy* for airlines (and building managers, whoever) to pay for extra security *if they choose to*. I'm *happy* to pay an extra fee to increase my safety when I fly. I should, however, be able to choose. (...) for (...) planning (...) OK. (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: All important (was: Amtrak Told to Plan Liquidation)
 
(...) Not sure here, but are you implying that the existance of the WTC buildings was less to blame for Sep 11 than the existance of the aeroplanes? (...) for (...) If you come to us & say "This polution can only affect you 8 people, and I want you (...) (23 years ago, 13-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
(...) Uh, I am unsure about this, but an expert has said on national television that this is *supposed* to happen in some cases. He did not specify, however. Probably this plane was unable to maneouver due to the low speed and altitude, much like (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
(...) reported (...) Indeed, these days the engine fuse pin is designed to release the engine when any unexpected substantial forces are applied to the engine, rather than transfer the forces to the wing, which may result in wing failure. Even a (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
(...) Not much more to report now--except to note that the engine- falling-off-the-airliner thing has at least a half dozen precedents, and the most famous one I can think of involved the plane continuing on safely (!!). Another link: (URL) However, (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
(...) As Mark said, it was an American Airlines Airbus A300. Current reports say the plane came apart before crashing, and there may have been an explosion. It seems this was a mechanical failure, and NOT a terrorist act, but there is no direct (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Airbus (Was Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC)
 
(...) It's an American Airlines Airbus A300. Supposedly an engine or engines crashed in a separate area. That's about all the news is reporting at the moment. ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Erik Olson writes: <he's OK> Yaay. But our hearts surely go out to those who are not. The major news sites are doing better at handling load than during 911 but just in case people can't get to them, here's a short (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
Hi folks, I think you know more about this than I do. I'm in Manhattan. My home is in Kew Gardens, a short distance from JFK airport. -Erik (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
(...) I have been to Eriks house & it is not to close to where the plane went down. I don't have his number with me. I will drop him an email. I live in Queens as well & know the area. Jonathan (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)
 
  Re: Bad News! Plane down in NYC
 
"Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:GMoz9A.MHE@lugnet.com... (...) from (...) day. (...) Ick. I tried getting ahold of Erik Olson by his home number and his cell and no answer on either one - but it also looks like its (...) (23 years ago, 12-Nov-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people)


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