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Re: eBay nailed?
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lugnet.market.theory
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Wed, 9 Feb 2000 14:02:02 GMT
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Mike Poindexter wrote:
> Well, there is really very little that one can do to prevent this kind of
> attack. Limiting people's ability to search is limiting users. It is very
> difficult to determine what a genuine search and what is a bogus one, since
> the bogus one is designed to look real.
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> It would be like 50,000 people in a town deciding to create a traffic jam.
> Shutting down the road accomplishes what they are trying to do - deny access.
> You can't arrest everyone driving because you can't prove who is legit and who
> is not. Sure, there will be some that make it obvious, but you can't catch
> all of them without catching some innocent people in the net as well.
The car analogy isn't perfect. One thing they can do is not respond to
more than one query per second or some such from a given IP address,
though that would screw companies with firewalls.
Also, in the case of people driving cars to block roads, to be
effective, you either need to do something obnoxious in intersections,
or get everyone going the same direction.
What we need to do very soon is start charging per packet. It could be
kept very cheap, but that would trim SPAM and most of these denial of
service activities.
--
Frank Filz
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| (...) Well, assuming the theory works, yes, you could say no more than 10 calls per second or something, but perhaps a better approach would be to make it smarter-- if someone makes 10 calls per second or something, their IP gets put on a "watch (...) (24 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
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| Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:38A1735A.6EEA@m...ing.com... (...) Charging for packet transfer will not solve ANY of these problems, as most of these things are done by shady charachters who mask their original identity and (...) (24 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
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| (...) Well, there is really very little that one can do to prevent this kind of attack. Limiting people's ability to search is limiting users. It is very difficult to determine what a genuine search and what is a bogus one, since the bogus one is (...) (24 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.market.theory)
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