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    Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Will Middelaer
   (...) With only a few exceptions, U.S. federal trademark laws and regulations do not control the non-commercial use of trademark (#1). To expect writers and speakers to punctuate the mention of, or merely the "first mention of", any trademark in the (...) (22 years ago, 28-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Matthew Gerber
   (...) Sounds painful! <snip the items I agree with...especially usage> (...) Hear-hear! (...) But then Letty doesn't think you should use your cell phone in public...I suppose I should only use it in private at home (where I'm next to my regular (...) (22 years ago, 28-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —William R. Ward
   (...) I'll definitely agree with you about "Xerox" having lost its trademark identity, but I don't think I've ever heard of "Kinko's" being used in a generic sense. Maybe it's a regional difference (I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area). (...) Did you (...) (22 years ago, 28-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Matthew Gerber
     (...) Oh yeah...as a former manager of a Kinko's branch, I can attest to this one personally. (...) Yep. (...) Good point (though not really part of the original issue)...and something GoB might want to consider if it becomes important to them. Matt (22 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Richard Marchetti
     (...) This whole thread is completely psychotic. "Bricksmith" and "bricksmiths" are actual words being used in the vernacular -- I am not sure anyone can claim exclusive use of words that are used commonly by others. Maybe I'm wrong, but I bet the (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)  
    
         Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Matthew Gerber
      (...) Windows. (...) Apple Records went after them based on the word alone. (...) There's something wrong with a group of builders banding together to create guidelines for the creation and marketing of quality MOC kits? I think it was a clever (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
     
          Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Richard Marchetti
      (...) Neither of those examples reassures me it isn't just the usual corporate abuse of power and money. How different we feel when it's eBay v. Brickbay...then it's just words that should belong to everyone. I feel the same about GOB. It's just (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)  
     
          Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Ross Crawford
       (...) Well from what I know of GoB (as an outsider) the two are inextricably linked - people are invited to join the GoB based on what they've built. (...) No, it doesn't, however if one person (or group) has a lot to say about a particular subject (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Matthew Gerber
      (...) Or is it an issue of community...where we, as communtiy members, should support each other when taking chances or making a difference or providing a service? I don't buy from Brickbay (just once), yet I'm willing to support Dan as much as (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Matthew Gerber
      (...) Windows. (...) Apple Records went after them based on the word alone. (...) There's something wrong with a group of builders banding together to create guidelines for the creation and marketing of quality MOC kits? I think it was a clever (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
    
         Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Kevin Wilson
      richard marchetti wrote in message ... (...) They are? I thought we made it up :-) Seriously, a Google search on "bricksmith" doesn't turn up anything that could be called "actual words being used in the vernacular".... you get lots of GoB-related (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
     
          Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Maggie Cambron
       (...) Well, glad you asked! (Never mind that you didn't ask ME-- any excuse to haul out my OED!) I have looked (OED Compact edition two volume set with the magnifier in the slipcase that I got at the garage sale with the Bentley for 2 bucks), and it (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
     
          Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Richard Marchetti
      (...) Nope. I have used the term before. As have others... (URL) Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
     
          Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Matthew Gerber
       (...) Sorry Hoppy...some 10 instances found on the web (I went a bit further than Google) do not put the word into the vernacular. Citing the Windows example, now there is a word DEFINATELY in the vernacular before trademark was claimed upon (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Richard Marchetti
       (...) I there is a difference between what passes for stare decisis and what is ACTUALLY right... -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Richard Marchetti
       (...) Sorry, I meant to say: I THINK there is a difference between what passes for stare decisis and what is ACTUALLY right... -- R (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Maggie Cambron
      (...) doesn't appear until nearly the bottom of the page and there's some really horrible stuff there you have to read through to find it. Maggie (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
     
          Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Richard Marchetti
      Maggie: Most browsers have a "find" capability that allows the user to locate a specific term on a page. Try pulling down some of the menus in IE/Netscape/Opera and I am sure you shall find it. You thought I actually read what was on those pages?! (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Scott Arthur
     (...) If GoB can show they were the fisrt users (I'm not saying they do or are), does the word not belong to them? (...) I'm not sure I agree. The GOB kits (and most other MOCs) are designed in a way that economics dictate Lego can not really (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.market.theory)
    
         Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Dave Schuler
     (...) I have no vested interest in GoB one way or the other, but here are a few references to consider: (URL) 30, number 5733) (URL) cottage, known in the twentieth century as "Bricksmith's Cottage" was, in the early nineteenth century, the (...) (22 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Trademarks & Copyrights (Swimming pools & movie stars) —Scott Arthur
    (...) Not in the UK. A photocopy is still a photocopy here. Although all vacuum cleaners are "Hoovers" here... but that just sounds right. Is this the same all over? Scott A (22 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
 

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