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Re: More changes at Paypal
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Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:38:25 GMT
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I'd prefer they pay for it with advertising and an IPO.  But seriously, if
the costs of CC transactions are part of the industry then they should have
introduced some of nominal transaction fee from the start, even 1%-2%, and
then raised it from there as needed for growth.  Instead of sucking
everybody in with "free" services.  Oh, I'm sorry, then they wouldn't have
such a large clientel now would they.

junior



In lugnet.market.services, Frank Filz writes:
In lugnet.market.services, William Brumbach writes:
Don't you love these people?  It's OK to suck money OUT of your bank
accounts pretty much unlimited but not the other way around.  It also peeves
me that the default payment option is the bank account given and now you
really have to dig to use the credit card option.  Of course, that's just my
opinion, I could be wrong.

Well, perhaps you'd prefer they eliminated the free option? What they are doing
can't be done for free. They are almost certainly being charged by a credit
card clearing house to process the credit card transactions. Where do you
propose they get this money from? It's also not clear to me that bank drafts
are without charge, so we may be being lucky there also.

The unfortunate thing is that no matter how you slice or dice it, there is a
cost to exchanging money. Normally individuals doing transactions between
themselves don't see it. Your bank eats most of those costs (the individuals
eat some of the cost in that if I give you money for a bunch of LEGO sets, you
don't time how long it takes to deposit the money in the bank, and charge that
to me also), except that they aren't willing to eat the costs if you don't have
a lot of money invested, and this is why banks set minimum balances and all
that fun business. On invested money, they recoup the costs, and earn profit
for their owners by making investments with your money which earn them more
than the interest they pay (which of course is all the earnings on non-interest
bearing checking accounts).

Look at Larry's descriptions of the efforts to run his factoring service if you
want a clue as to the costs of offering such services (and note that Larry is
not even earning as much as the possibly underpaid teller at your bank for his
efforts).

Frank

In lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade, Julie Krenz writes:
Shouldn't they be required to email us with these changes???
Here's the latest:
Notice Date: December 6, 2000
Effective Date: December 20, 2000

In order to increase the predictability and consistency of our credit card
processing costs, the Personal Account $500 limit on receiving credit card
payments every six months will be changed to a $100 monthly limit. This • change
increases the actual limit from $1000 per year to $1200 per year. Payments
funded from the sender's bank account or existing PayPal account balance will
not count against the recipient's limit. At the beginning of each monthly
cycle, the limit will be reset to $100. Recipients exceeding the
$100 limit in a given month will no longer be able to accept credit card
payments unless they choose to upgrade to a Premier or Business Account. • Credit
card payments sent to  a Personal Account in excess of the limit will be held
as "pending" until the recipient chooses to accept the payment by upgrading • or
to return it to the sender by refusing the payment. Personal Accounts • exceeding
the limit will still be able to receive payments funded from a bank account • or
existing PayPal account balance.
====================

Julie



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(...) Advertising, sure... good idea, but what do you mean when you say "an IPO"? That they should find some sucker investors to buy stock in a company that doesn't have a revenue model and fund operating expenses out of capital, forever? Or did you (...) (24 years ago, 20-Dec-00, to lugnet.market.services, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Well, perhaps you'd prefer they eliminated the free option? What they are doing can't be done for free. They are almost certainly being charged by a credit card clearing house to process the credit card transactions. Where do you propose they (...) (24 years ago, 19-Dec-00, to lugnet.market.services)

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