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  Re: Proxy ratcheting: How do auction systems work?
 
(...) it (...) proxy. (...) So in a similar scenario to the one Larry's pointed out - if I come along with a $200 firm bid (and a $250 maximum) just before your phone bill arrives, then I don't get the shuttle, and your firm bid shoots up to $250. (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
 
  Re: Proxy ratcheting: How do auction systems work?
 
(...) Sorry - I actually meant to say that some replies had indicated that AucZILLA doesn't work _in the way Larry had described_, not that it doesn't work (full stop). Reading through my last posting, there was a comma after 'work' which shouldn't (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
 
  Re: Proxy ratcheting: How do auction systems work?
 
(...) Well, I can appreciate the technical elegance but I'm not sure I think this is a good thing or not. Basically you're saying that as a bidder, you can retract the "secret" part of your bid, as long as it hasn't been revealed yet. In your (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
 
  Re: Proxy ratcheting: How do auction systems work?
 
The bidding mechanism also has some new functionality. Assume the current lot is open with no bids and a $10 minimum. Next, assume it is an Airport Shuttle - built once. I make a firm bid of $150, fine. I then make a proxy bid of $400. The net (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
 
  Re: Proxy ratcheting: How do auction systems work?
 
Larry, I must protest! In designing the system, I wanted first of all to allow firm bidding - which is an important signialing tool in an auction. But the 'common' rules in proxy-only auctions would have bestowed every advantage upon the proxy bid, (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
 
  Re: Proxy ratcheting: How do auction systems work?
 
(...) No. Not required. The auction system doesn't have to be fair to be working "correctly". But the RULES can be broken. And I'm with you, the rules in eBay that allow a one penny overbid to take a solid wide range proxy bid away are indeed (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
 
  Re: Proxy ratcheting: How do auction systems work?
 
(...) I don't know if you're splitting hairs, but splitting hairs is probably a good thing in this case. :I This whole area/topic (auction theory) is something that I'm extremely opinionated[1] about -- and not afraid to show it, even at the risk of (...) (25 years ago, 21-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
 
  Glen's Assorted Lego Auction - 4/20 Update
 
*** Items have progressed to "Going 2". If no new bids are received, the auction will progress to "Sold" on Thursday 4/22. Items with bids will progress every two days until sold. *** Hello all. It is time again for another auction. Following is a (...) (25 years ago, 20-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
 
  Re: Proxy ratcheting: How do auction systems work?
 
(...) Maybe a bit subjective, yeah. :) (...) And fairly. (...) I'll explain why it's broken below... (...) The behavior isn't broken given the rules. The rules are broken. EBay's rule (requiring a new bid to exceed the current bid by the minimum (...) (25 years ago, 20-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
 
  Re: Auction: Model Team/Technics/Town
 
(...) As usual, if you pay me in USD, you pay 1.00 extra. If you pay in UK pound sterling you pay <whatever it costs you to arrange for that> extra. If you live in the US, usually I am cheaper, but you decide what you want to do. (25 years ago, 20-Apr-99, to lugnet.market.auction)


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