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| | | (...) Well noted on the arab influences, but the lateen sail was supplanted by the square-rigged sail for transatlantic voyages fairly quickly, though it remained popular in the Mediterranean for many centuries. Columbus' caravel Nina was converted (...) (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt)
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| | | | | Re: What we can do... (my 2 cents) —Pedro Silva
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| | | | | (...) All true... but I still believe that the concept behind the lateen sail (triangle + rotation around mast) allowed travelling against the wind, unlike square sails - better for back-winds (no pun intended). And I'm not sure if ALL the sails in (...) (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: What we can do... (my 2 cents) —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) I believe the mizzen mast was lateen rigged on the Nina, as on many ships until the gaff-rigged sail comes along (ahhh, the Armada Flagship, now available from Lego S@H). I love putting lateen sails on my Lego ships - I keep meaning to cut my (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.pirates)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What we can do... (my 2 cents) —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | (...) Yeah, but it was an *English* storm... Dave! (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.pirates)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: What we can do... (my 2 cents) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | (...) How so? are you saying god was on the side of the english??? GRIN (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: What we can do... (my 2 cents) —Pedro Silva
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| | | | | | | | (...) That's what you say. Can you present evidence that the storm originated over England and not elsewhere? ;-) Pedro (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What we can do... (my 2 cents) —Pedro Silva
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| | | | | | (...) There it is: influence, not copy. I'd say inspiration... :-) (...) Yes, the storm *was* the main gun... but the fire-ships were also very effective, at least in the morale issue. The only real bugger in this whole story is that portuguese (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.pirates)
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| | | | | Re: What we can do... (my 2 cents) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | (...) It's arguable that Portugal had very little interest in going West at any time (before Napoleon came around, of course :D ). Until very nearly the end of the 17th century, the Americas were more "obstacle" than anything else (Spain's dumb-luck (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt)
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| | | | | | Re: What we can do... (my 2 cents) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | Ack, I can't believe I didn't set groups right. I didn't want this hiding in .pt alone. :D (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: What we can do... (my 2 cents) —Pedro Silva
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| | | | (...) Thnx. (...) *We* did not run west... the *queen* did - that marked the beggining of tourism in Brazil. The rest of the population had to stay and withstand the fight, with some help from the Brits (ah, Wellington... fascinating character) we (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
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