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Re: Surely this is not legal
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Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:30:48 GMT
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Pretty much my point. Not distinctly illegal, (other than the obvious
intellectual property issue), but exceedingly stupid since you can get most
of them free. Also, you'd have to have most of the sets anyway just to build
what you see in each indivdual instruction. Most people I know want complete
sets with instructions anyway, not just a bunch o' brick and hope for
instructions later.
Rich
In lugnet.lego.direct, David Eaton writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard W. Schamus writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Rose Regner writes:
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=533115033
> >
> > It probably isn't illegal. It's just not very smart, especially for the
> > person(s) buying the item. Considering that most of the instruction are
> > available from www.brickshelf.com and, (I'm only speculating here and am not
> > in possession of any information that directly confirms or denies this
> > speculation,) that it would be easy enough to mine Brickshelf for the images
> > used in the item described. Just a thought.
>
> I'm going to kinda agree with Geoffrey here. This COULD be illegal, except I
> don't think Lego will care, really, unless this turns into some sort of
> lucrative market.
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> The images presented are under Lego's copyright. Lego has asked that no sets
> currently under production be shown publically, and that out-of-date
> instructions may be shown freely in public.
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> HOWEVER. This seller is making a PROFIT off of Lego's intellectual property
> and therefore Lego is entitled to make whatever ridiculous royalty claims
> that it desires for selling such property. Lego could charge $400 per image,
> they could charge %0.5 percent, they could charge %50,000. Lego could also
> say they CAN'T sell it.
>
> Basically, to the best of my knowledge, Lego hasn't said one way or the
> other what steps (if any) you should go through if you'd like to sell their
> copyrighted material. That's the only reason it could still be legal. But if
> Lego HAS said that it is due royalties or some such and this seller hasn't
> done his research (or isn't following Lego's edict), then this is most
> definitely illegal.
>
> But it's probably not worth Lego's time. Unless it makes lots of money for
> some reason. Which it probably won't. Cuz, let's face it. I wouldn't buy it.
> Would you?
>
> It's got a high stupidity factor. You could simply get the images free for
> yourself off of brickshelf. The only way I can see that this might be of
> some value to someone is if they don't have high-speed internet and want
> local copies of the images since it would save them from downloading the
> images. And even if this were the case, it's not too likely that someone
> would want to bother spending the money on the item + shipping and handling,
> etc, unless they weren't informed (didn't know about brickshelf, etc) or
> just had the money to throw around.
>
> DaveE
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| (...) I'm going to kinda agree with Geoffrey here. This COULD be illegal, except I don't think Lego will care, really, unless this turns into some sort of lucrative market. The images presented are under Lego's copyright. Lego has asked that no sets (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jan-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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