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  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) I think it's incredible that LEGO gives any attention to AFOL's at all. Now you want them to give special attention to the minority who are collectors? You don't ask much, do you? It's great that LEGO has made this set available again. And (...) (22 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: 10152 Update: What has TLC to do to bring YOU up against them?
 
(...) Fact # 1: I have yet to see anyone produce the "PROMISE" that TLC gave. Fact # 2: I am one of those who IS very upset with the change to the colors. I have not spent one penny on new sets, nor will I any time soon. Old sets and parts will be (...) (22 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) I agree with you Jonathan. Anyone who buys Lego as an investment should look elsewhere to invest. I own 10 copies of 6390 Main Street. Then 20 years later they re-release it. Was I mad? No, TLG never said that old sets would not be (...) (22 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: 10152 Update: What has TLC to do to bring YOU up against them?
 
(...) To be honest, I could care less about what the company does. This is a hobby for me. What this means is that I refuse to let anything LEGO stress me out. In other words, I'll praise the company when they do something I like and ignore (...) (22 years ago, 21-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: 10152 Update: What has TLC to do to bring YOU up against them?
 
In lugnet.lego, René Hoffmeister wrote: Dear René, thanks for bringing these postings into the debate. Facts are: LEGO gave a promise and broke it (because they think they can generate profit out of this decision). Fact number 2 is: lots of people (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
 
(...) Oh come on now! What's wrong with a civilized, lively debate? That's what Lugnet is for, beside listening to wonderful news coming to us occasionally from THE MOUTH OF LEGO (imagine raving orcish minifig hordes in the background ...)* Agreed, (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) No, I'm implying that listening to the groans from a minute part of a minor part of the customer base is not sound business. Making money is. (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) You're right Larry, this is a perfect point to stop, as the thread has devolved from relatively restrained (albeit heated) to snotty. The reaction of the community to this issue is certainly something to think about. I'll bow out now and move (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Interesting point of view, Rene!
 
(...) Perhaps I just read all statements from Lego as possibles, whereas others read them as 100% definites. Let's look at Jake's post: (URL) As many of you have seen from the leaked pictures online, we have released a > (...) Interpretation: Fact. (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
 
  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) Ooooh, you'd be surprised, Larry! Actually I would happily share your point of view - if I had a perfectly sound reason to do so. Say, about 80 bucks burning a hole in my pocket and an empty shelf that would perfectly fit a Maersk ship? That (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  A Community Problem (Was: Re: 10152 Update)
 
(...) Thank You, Larry. I hate to add one more post to this thread, but feel the need. I totally agree with what you say about everyone just stopping. But, I think this thread is a real eye-opener as to the nature of this community. Is this really (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Interesting point of view, Rene!
 
(...) I'm glad I could be of service. ;) But I'm afraid you're mixing up so many things I really don't wish to sort it out for you. And better never, ever mention George Doubble-You to "Old Europeans" like me ... (...) Try something stronger than (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) I agree that some here are stubborn and some here are seeing things all topsy turvy, yes. Where I differ with you, though, is in the identification of which group of people that appelation belongs to, and which group it doesn't belong to. We (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) The issue is not TLC did 'exactly the opposite' of what they said, they made sound business decisions based on all available information at the time. So, in my humble opinion, it's your flawed analysis of the situation that's cause for (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) Oh dear. You are really stubborn, Kelly, as well as persistent in seeing things from upside down. Imagine, just for a moment, somebody tells you one thing, then does the exact opposite. You're following so far? Great. So, wouldn't you be (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)  
 
  Re: 10152 Update
 
In lugnet.lego, Jacob Davies wrote: <snip> (...) Second this sentiment Dave K (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) Excellent, I look forward to getting a copy of this set (I hadn't heard about it until this posting). (Speaking, I guess, as a Lego collector: I don't collect based on whether something is rare or not, but on whether I like the model. My (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) Actually, the core question is more directly this: Should LEGO customers feel entitled to tell LEGO how to conduct their business? Unfortunately, several people here believe they do feel so entitled, by doing LEGO the favor of purchasing their (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
 
  Re: Interesting point of view, Rene!
 
(...) What is even more clear is that, at the time, TLC stated 'we have such-n-such quantity of Maersk Blue in stock and want to do something with it. Since, at htis time, we don't have a contract with Maersk for anything, we'll get rid of our stock (...) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
 
  Re: Interesting point of view, Rene!
 
(...) That's not how I took it. But look at the way it was explained to the Germans via their liason (thanks to Rene's post): (URL) Doesn't get more clear than that IMO. JOHN (22 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)

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