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  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
In lugnet.general, David Eaton wrote: (snip good analysis) For more musings on the build/rebuild vs. build/play dichotomy see (URL) second one really reinforces what Dave's talking about, in that if you plan to NEVER take something apart but just (...) (13 years ago, 28-Feb-12, to lugnet.general)  
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) I think he's doing the same thing that virtually everyone does when they see modern LEGO-- trying to figure out why they don't like it as much. Everyone that grew up with LEGO seems to go through that same stage of curmudgeon-ity, where they (...) (13 years ago, 28-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) He's got a (half baked) hypothesis. He wrote a paper 10 years ago and is still milking it. Don't confuse him with data. OK, that was harsh, but that's what I come away with, without detracting from the agreement points we DID find here. Like (...) (13 years ago, 28-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)  
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) Good point, but there have always been LEGO sets sold as specific models with instructions for building them. And sets were not marketed directly to children in the 60s and 70s, they were marketed to their parents, and parents (at least my (...) (13 years ago, 28-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) Yes, the debate is the same one that has been going on forever, but when you compare his research with his opening claim that "The sets kids receive as gifts today are replete with made-to-order piece types special to each set, useful in one (...) (13 years ago, 28-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) Okay, yeah, from that specific perspective, I can see that he might have a point. A given set's part assortment has indeed become more specialized, and especially for some of the smaller ones it might be much more difficult to build a (...) (13 years ago, 28-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Astronaut Builds LEGO Space Station Inside Real-Life Space Station
 
(...) like a simple payload glovebox" "The challenging part was using the thick rubber gloves in the containment system because it made me clumsy in building the LEGO space station" That's a pretty decent sized "build-in-the-bag" set. ROSCO (13 years ago, 28-Feb-12, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) I spend too much time on Facebook. I very much want to click "Like" to both David Laswell's and Dave Eaton's comments here. As for the argument Dr. Changizi presents, I'm too distracted by the opening of the article, which to any experienced (...) (13 years ago, 28-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) Ha! I somehow missed that in the past. Love it! -Hendo (13 years ago, 28-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) I think he's probably correct, from a certain perspective. Essentially, LEGO has become a more diverse toy. LEGO from the 60's and early 70's was a VERY free-form toy. There weren't many connection types, so all the pieces essentially worked (...) (13 years ago, 27-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)  
 
  Monorail Record
 
NELUG recently held an event dedicated to setting the world record for the longest LEGO monorail track. From everything we had seen, the previous record was somewhere around 200-300 linear feet of monorail track, depending on how you counted it, (...) (13 years ago, 27-Feb-12, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.events, lugnet.general, lugnet.org.us.nelug) ! 
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) Two things come immediately to mind. The first is that it's really amusing that he's saying that now that there are a much wider variety of parts, it's harder to build something with them. I've got over 40 cars in my collection now that could (...) (13 years ago, 27-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) Or the (URL) Principle? JOHN (13 years ago, 27-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) Is that a corollary to the Jack Stone Effect? (13 years ago, 27-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) He would argue that the increase in the number of new types of pieces is actually an indication that the LEGO system is getting less flexible. But as you say, the system is designed so that every piece connects to at least one other piece (...) (13 years ago, 27-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) Heh. (URL) JOHN (13 years ago, 27-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) Have you accounted for the Galidor factor? (13 years ago, 27-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
 
  Re: Mathematical proof that you can't build anything with LEGO bricks
 
(...) He says "LEGOs" which makes his work suspect right there. :) Not very rigorous. The paper is from 2001... the piece palette has improved somewhat since then. But generally I'm not sure he's drawing valid inferences/conclusions. LEGO elements (...) (13 years ago, 27-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)  
 
  Re: Astronaut Builds LEGO Space Station Inside Real-Life Space Station
 
(...) Less than the one made from Megablox... :) (13 years ago, 27-Feb-12, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.fun)  
 
  Re: Astronaut Builds LEGO Space Station Inside Real-Life Space Station
 
(...) Oh, wait a minute... (13 years ago, 26-Feb-12, to lugnet.general)


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