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Re: Why would set 10042 not be available in the United States?
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lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.fun
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Tue, 10 Jun 2003 02:57:13 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Jason J. Railton wrote:

Okay, so technically, it's the 'Union' flag.  A 'Jack' is the
national penant hung at the rear of a ship, so it's only the
'Union Jack' when it's being flown by the Navy.  It's like
calling the parliament clock tower 'Big Ben'; it's the tower
of Big Ben.  Big Ben itself is the bell inside.  But everyone
calls it that, regardless.  Tour guides explain it in depth,
and ten seconds later everyone's saying "ooh yes, we just saw
Big Ben".  Do you have, like, X-ray vision then or something?
And the 'Barbary Apes' on Gibraltar are macaques, a monkey
species, not apes.

I suppose we can blame one of your countrymen for perpetuating that
misconception:

"There was an Old Man of the Cape,
Who possessed a large Barbary Ape;
Till the Ape, one dark night, set the house all alight,
Which burned that Old Man of the Cape."

(From The Complete Nonsense Books of Edward Lear, one of the all
time top picks on my kids' bedtime reading list)

And Apple Pie is a German recipe, not American.  And
'attendees' and 'standees' aren't proper words.

Neither is "irregardless", which Webster's calls a "substandard or
humorous redundancy" [1]-- but I see by the above that you are aware
of that.  :-)

And no one gives a ****, so why bother?...  :-)

I almost didn't, but I could no longer restrain myself after I
read the Shakespeare quote in .castle by Dave!

But I will restrain myself from wondering aloud how the Jolly Roger
got its name.

Maggie C.

[1] I'd go down to the basement and check my OED, but it would probably
just say the word is a "substandard or humourous redundancy", so I'll
save myself the trip.



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  Re: Why would set 10042 not be available in the United States?
 
Maggie Cambron wrote: <snip> (...) Too late The name "Jolly Roger" is thought to have originated from a nickname for the devil, "Old Roger". However, it is more likely to have gotten its name from the French word for "pretty red", "Jolie Rouge". The (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
  Re: Why would set 10042 not be available in the United States?
 
(...) I think it's from before that, but it doesn't help. There's a vague rule that monkeys have tails and apes don't, but a lot of macaques have really really short tails that messes that one up. Generally apes hang and swing, so have longer arms (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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(...) Everyone still calls it that. I don't think anyone would be upset by what you call it, apart from the highly pedantic... ;-) Okay, so technically, it's the 'Union' flag. A 'Jack' is the national penant hung at the rear of a ship, so it's only (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jun-03, to lugnet.general)

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