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Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
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lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community
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Wed, 9 Apr 2003 02:24:07 GMT
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Over the better part of the last year, I've done a lot of thinking about the
LEGO hobby and the LEGO community, trying to develop a philosophy on it
which I use to channel my efforts, energies, and interactions. I'm
interested in hearing others' thoughts on the LEGO community.

Particularly - what do you think the LEGO community includes? what does it
exclude?

I entered the online LEGO community in late 1996, when there was only RTL
(and a dying ATL) for mainstream discussion. The LEGO community was not very
big compared to today, and there were few resources available. Also, since
discussion centered around Usenet newsgroups, the active members were more
experienced computer/internet users - often programmers by trade or college
students.

Since then, we've seen an apparent change in the demographic of the fan
community. More people online and involved today are general computer users,
and perhaps barely computer literate. They come from a wide variety of
backgrounds and with that have different attitudes and outlooks towards the
LEGO community.

Through local clubs and community events worldwide, we know that many LEGO
fans are not connected to the internet, or choose not to participate in
online discussion. There are also people who aren't a part of the
"mainstream" LEGO hobby - they embrace "controversial" [1] themes such as
Bionicle, or participate in LEGO organizations not directly connected to the
online community such as First LEGO League.

There are people who participate for different reasons. Some participate
purely for light fun, others for the artistic qualities of the brick, and
yet others who put serious time into building community resources to enhance
the LEGO experience.

As I'm trying to determine what the LEGO community means to me, I'd like to
hear what it means to you.

I've encountered very conservative and very liberal attitudes towards what
"the LEGO community" is. I think some feel it is (or should be) limited to
LUGNET, others limited to active online participants. Where on the other end
of the spectrum, some openly and enthusiastically include Bionicle builders
and First LEGO League kids, artists who use LEGO as a medium but don't
communicate with LEGO fans online, and more. I've also experienced different
attitudes towards how the LEGO Company fits in (or doesn't fit in) as a
participant in the LEGO community.

I see everything in the world of LEGO as having its purpose. Though I lvoe
LUGNET, I don't see it as the end-all, be-all of LEGO sites. I think there's
plenty of room for places like From Bricks to Bothans and BZPower, even
though they cater to a different demographic than LUGNET does. I also firmly
believe in the in-person community; local clubs, groups like First LEGO
League, and people who follow LEGO news and attend public shows like those
at BricksWest, Northwest BrickCon, LEGOWORLD, LEGO Train shows, and more.

I'm for evangelizing the LEGO hobby. I want to see more people discover this
amazing hobby and the resources that are available to them. I want to see
those people grow in their building skills and build friendships with
like-minded blockheads. I like open LEGO events, that encourage the public,
or at least members of the public interested in the hobby for themselves, to
attend. At the same time, I like to get together with my LEGO friends from
all over the country (and even world) and talk shop with few outside
interruptions.

So, where do you think LEGO interests which aren't necessarily "mainstream"
accepted values fit in? What makes someone someone a "member" of the LEGO
community? If someone actively participates in a league such as FLL, but
doesn't post on LUGNET, are they "in?"

I know there are no concrete answers to the questions I am asking. I am
simply wondering what others think. Maybe these thoughts can open peoples'
eyes to what else is out there, beyond our corner of the LEGO world. And I
hope the ideas will help me continue to form my opinions and attitudes
towards the LEGO hobby as a whole.

Thanks for reading - and I'd love to hear your thoughts!

-Tim

[1] In the sense that it was quickly shunned by adult fans online when
released, and to this day is not yet widely accepted as a legitimate
building medium by the same.



Message has 16 Replies:
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
My quick answer is this: Every fan of LEGO who wants to be part of this community is. No need to post on a website, to have a folder on Brickshelf or be member of BrickLink, a LUG or the FLL... Everyone, even the ones stil ignoring about this (...) (21 years ago, 9-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) I think by using the word community, it specifys a specific group. Lugnet seems to represent the LEGO internet community. In order for us to be considered as a community not as individuals, we must work together, sharing ideas and enjoying (...) (21 years ago, 9-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Me too! (...) One of the things I have noticed, is, when I have met people who are on the "fringes" of the community, I guess they don't realize how much we all would like them to a part of this experience. I figure the top percent of people (...) (21 years ago, 9-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) My thoughts are that there are many aspects of the LEGO community...as you mention later, there are those with different interests with LEGO from Bionicle to Mindstorms. And the common thread of all of these groups that make an overall (...) (21 years ago, 9-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
"Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:HD21C7.1yst@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) WHEW! This is quite a topic to cover! But, hey, I like it :-) (...) As someone has already mentioned, LEGO is a medium. If someone uses that medium (...) (21 years ago, 9-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Hi Tim, These kind of conversations are what help us develop as a community. I applaude you for bringing it up. Its nice to see us going a step beyond merely coming together to share likes and dislikes. By stimulating this type of (...) (21 years ago, 9-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Great topic, Tim! Hmm... Well time for Hendo to babble again... :) In my analysis, the term "Lego Community" is a group of humanity that reaches far beyond any of the limitations you have suggested. The entire Lego Community includes TLC (...) (21 years ago, 9-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
In lugnet.general, Tim Courtney writes: SNIP (...) HUGE SNIP (...) basically, any one that plays or works with ANY Lego building product. Jeff (21 years ago, 9-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) My personal feeling is that the "LEGO community" doesn't really exist. That is to say there isn't a singular entity that can qualify to classify the group that might make up this definition. But rather, in my mind what you might really be (...) (21 years ago, 10-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) Okay, it looks like you must have had a nice amount of time on your hands in order to come up with such a question - time I would normally spend building. (...) Step back and look at the arrangement of themes. For some reason, the community (...) (21 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) I have pondered this sort of topic a bit. I have intentionally only read one post here so as not to color my thoughts up front. Only a couple of small points frist on the LEGO 'community.' It's hard to say 'what' that is. I generally consider (...) (21 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) The Community Development team (the team I am on), spent some time looking at this same question. As you can imagine, we get LOTS of questions internally about "What is community anyway?" To address that question, we developed a generic (...) (21 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community) !! 
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) When I had left the service back in '99 and discovered that LEGO made trains...my jaw had hit the floor! And I was totally engrossed in LEGO (and the online AFOL community). However, since that time I have become involved in other hobbies as (...) (21 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) I am sure it also happened to you: you see a thumbnail on BrickShelf and immediatly you know who is the model author. Lego is much more unlimited than i thought at first. Each builder has unique building style and techniques. And also a unique (...) (21 years ago, 15-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
(...) I've found this discussion to be one of the most interesting topics on LUGNET in a long time. Thanks, Tim, for bringing it up. There have been tons of thoughtful responses so far, which seems to suggest that there _is_ a community and that we (...) (21 years ago, 15-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)
  Re: Quantifying and Classifying the LEGO Community
 
Whoa. Did this thread stray or what? (Just look at the dots.) Tryin' to keep it light, -H.Man :) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.people, lugnet.fun.community)

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