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Having also been "in an armed conflict on foreign soil" (in fact, I was in the middle of Iraq with the 1st Cav while the Marines were still sailing back and forth in the Arabian Gulf playing decoy, but I digress), I can say that the Gulf War and (...) (25 years ago, 17-Feb-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is an incredibly ridiculous statement. While the Army Airborne were the first troops on the ground (with M16's only), everyone knows that the Marines, thanks to the maritime prepositioning system, were the first fully equipped armed (...) (25 years ago, 18-Feb-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) lugnet.off-topic.mil...y-bluster? (25 years ago, 18-Feb-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I may have news for you--that "who" wasn't anyone actually doing the fighting. One of the benefits of being at the "top of the food chain", as it were, in an corporatist imperial state means being able to sit in your boardroom sipping (...) (25 years ago, 18-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I, too, appreciate your pride in your service. But as to "top of the food chain," I have to disagree. I will admit that, to a certain extent, the Marines are an "elite" force, and this is precisely why they are not "at the top of the food chain." No (...) (25 years ago, 18-Feb-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"William A. Swanberg" wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) <snip> (...) <snip> Go on boys, maybe TLC by following this, will realize it's time to start marketing a military theme. Look at this market potential..:-) Selçuk (25 years ago, 18-Feb-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Misconception. The Marines do far more than secure beaches. Why else were we in the forward areas of the desert and Viet Nam (and most conflicts for that matter)? The Marines, pound for pound, pack far more punch. We have staying power and (...) (25 years ago, 18-Feb-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Bill Farkas" <kfar@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:Fq5B2D.I06@lugnet.com... (...) we in (...) staying (...) with the (...) Marines (...) Well, I wasn't going to mention the debacle that was Viet Nam, but since you brought it up... First, I (...) (25 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"James Powell" <wx732@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> wrote in message news:Fq6DA5.5Gu@lugnet.com... (...) planet (...) be (...) Forces (...) Let's take these one at a time. 1) This *is* a family forum, so please use appropriate language. 2) Don't confuse (...) (25 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) While this is an interesting debate, may I remind you that this is a family forum? I'd rather you used more powerful rhetoric and less pungent words to get your point across... thanks. (25 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Watch your mouth soldier boy. =) Regards, Kurt (25 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My reference to Viet Nam was soley to point out the non-beach landing aspect, not that they were a main force. I agree with your assessment of the debacle over there, but that was due to politicians and not tacticians. Viet Nam had far more to (...) (25 years ago, 19-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Bill Farkas <kfar@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:Fq3pFs.Cqn@lugnet.com... (...) in (...) the (...) Marines, (...) equipped (...) knows (...) force, (...) units and (...) unit (...) top of (...) I must point out that your statement, especially (...) (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK, I think it's definitely time to get this thread _away_ from .general (it's gotten waaaay off-topic, and the original post wasn't really on-topic for .general in the first place). The best place to continue this current branch of argument (...) (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nitpick Time! There are actually six banches of the military. Army, Navy, Marine Corp, Airforce, NOAA Corp, and the Public Health Service. And no, I am not kidding about the last one. :) Jeff "Broken sword and shield and tears that never fall" (...) (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) list? (*Ducking*) Rich Have Fun! C-Ya! Legoman34 ***** Legoman34 (Richard W. Schamus)... (No, I don't work for TLC, but I want to...) Card carrying LUGNET MEMBER: #70 Visit (URL) & (URL) wait is over...) ..."The only thing we have to fear, is (...) (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Leaving out the quasi-military Coast Guard and Merchant Marine? For shame! -- William A. Swanberg CPT, SC Commander, 229th Signal Company (TACSAT) swanberg@msn.com "Jeff Stembel" <aulddragon@wamalug.org> wrote in message (...) (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Actually, had you read the previous replies to the message you just replied to, you would see that most of this has already been covered. BTW, the 82nd had considerably more than just "their M16s" when they landed, as anyone who has had to hump a (...) (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Alright, now I'm worried. Public Health Service is part of the Defense Department? What's next, the interstate system? Steve (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Hey now, try to stay on-topic in off-topic, soldier;-) -John (25 years ago, 1-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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