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Re: What words describe the Lego elements?
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Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:37:52 GMT
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After thinking about this a lot, I think we need a nomenclature that is
similar to the binomial nomenclature that they use for animals. These could
be coupled to a standard name, such as lupus wilus, aka Wiley Coyote. The
technical name would allow people to go down a tree of options that break
the monstrous element list into manageable chunks. This would also allow
people to do a search for "macaroni" and find the item in question. Also,
similar pieces would be close on the "family tree" of elements. This would
be based on function of the piece. Multi-function pieces become the problem
here.
Although we all want simple names, there is no way that we can do that and
still accurately describe complex pieces so that people who don't know what
a macaroni brick is already can get a mental picture.
This is already very similar to the breakdown of pieces in Auczilla, where
there are bricks, plates, tiles, slopes, minifigs, etc. A misc. category
could hold items that haven't been classified yet until they get a better
place on the tree.
Beneath the top layer of definition, such as technic, one could come with
their second description choices (brick, plate, etc.). Once they are
classified as to where they go and how they are named, we can have a public
committee that votes on approval, much like the LDraw element updates.
Of course, there are some slight problems, such as technic wheels. Do they
go under wheels or under technic? I think that this project needs somebody
who is really anal retentive, super organized and has nothing better to do
for a week than classify Lego elements to get the ball rolling. Once it is
going and the mechanisms for updates are in effect, it should be able to
sustain itself in conjunction with the LDraw effort and possibly have one
person who is on both committees to maintain consistency.
Mike Poindexter
Sybrand Bonsma <sbonsma@molphys.leidenuniv.nl> wrote in message
news:FpEqF9.FzA@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.db.brictionary, Bill Bourn writes:
> > One of the tasks of the bricktionary is to allow the
> > identification of an in-hand Lego element. The user would supply
> > various descriptor words based on what he sees of the object in front
> > of him. What might then happen is a sort of expert system series of
> > questions by the B'ary to narrow the possibilities of identification.
> >
> > So, other than color, how *could* people identify a Lego element?
> > Please bear in mind that saying that a piece comes from such and such
> > a Lego set or is used in some Lego theme or other only works for the
> > Lego-savvy folks. I mean questions like: what shape is it? How big?
> > How many studs on top?
> >
> > What else can you think of? Remember, the descriptions made by a
> > neophyte or a child might make the clearest and sharpest distinctions
> > among the myriad Lego elements.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your consideration.
> > Bill Bourn
>
> I had also thought about this subject. One of the names that also should • appear
> in the Lepanadat project is some sort of systematic name. This would allow
> people to find a picture of the piece and the various names for the piece.
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> I had a few ideas that might be the start for a systematic name:
> - Number of studs of a piece
> (a tile would be in the same categorie as many minifig tools,
> a 2x2 45 degree slope would be in the same categorie as a 1x2 brick, • etc)
> - Outer dimensions (in brick units for example)
> (plates and tiles would be in the same category,
> a 2x2 brick would be in the same category as the 2x2 45 degree • slope,
> etc)
>
> Shape isn't very useful in my opinion. Of course, there are many normal
> elements (slopes, tiles, bricks, plates), but there are also many elements • that
> are hard to group, because they have a very specific shape.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Sybrand Bonsma
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| (...) Respectfully disagree. Animals are all related (1), and the nomenclature, driven by the Linnaeus classification system, reflects that relationship. Lego elements, except in limited cases, are not related to each other by derivation or (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.db.brictionary)
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| (...) I had also thought about this subject. One of the names that also should appear in the Lepanadat project is some sort of systematic name. This would allow people to find a picture of the piece and the various names for the piece. I had a few (...) (25 years ago, 4-Feb-00, to lugnet.db.brictionary)
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