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Re: Color Change background
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Fri, 14 May 2004 06:46:24 GMT
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Alfred Speredelozzi wrote:
> > > There has been a great deal of assumptions posted about the reasons we made the
> > > changes. Everything from trying to copy MEGABloks, to trying to save money on
> > > recycling parts. I know it seems hard to believe (unless you really think about
> > > the long-term history and attitude of this company), but it really is as simple
> > > as trying to create a sustainable and consistent color palette for the future.
> >
> > To bring up other people's questions in a way - so this basically means, until we
> > AFOLs screamed bloody murder, that white WAS scheduled for a change, right?
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> I think it is unfair to characterize it this way. Jake had said they felt it
> would be better to do it all at once. They honestly didn't think anyone would
> notice, and really, we might not have. If there wasn't an internet, I seriously
> doubt we would. So, I think its safe to assume that if white was going to be
> changed, they would have already done it, or they would at least have told us
> that it was not "universal." They really aren't going back on this decision
> because of us, they are just agreeing to listen more, and try and help ease our
> pain as much as they can--but they are standing firm, so why would they back
> down on a "white" change?
Then I submit that the people making this decision are colorblind. Noone in their right
mind would change dark grey to dark bley, and say they were DONE with the color palette
changes, that they had brought the colors more inline. As others have noted, dark bley
clashes with virtually every other color. Dark grey does NOT. If they wanted to shift
the palette to be more in harmony, they either pulled up short from our outcry, or they
failed miserably in setting the new tones, as the palette is anything {but} harmonius
right now.
> > Otherwise, bleys and the current white are NOT a "consistent color palette". The
> > only way bleys could be in a consistent palette was if white was shifted (along with
> > other colors).
> >
> > Locking in "universal" bleys and white insures that you will NEVER, EVER have a
> > "consistent color palette".
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> > If the Design Lab truly wants a "consistent color palette", they need to go back on
> > their word in one way or another - either shift white (try it, and you'll REALLY see
> > some screaming, I'm sure), or shift bleys back. They have to do one or the other at
> > this point, or they've failed at the very start of the palette change.
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> I don't know if I agree or disagree here. I am not an expert on color. I have
> heard a lot of people argueing over which colors match what, and now I am quite
> frankly confused. It would be nice if someone qualified (like an expert graphic
> artist) and unemotional about this could explain it. (You may be qualified,
> Tom, I don't know.)
I don't work for Pantone or anything, but it's not really that hard. Place dark bley next
to just about any other color (except light bley and black), and it clashes. Dark grey
does not. I {don't care} if a "cooler" dark grey is supposed to match the rest of the
palette better. Theoretically, maybe. IRL, forget it.
> > On a side note, I get it that noone in the Design Lab ever BUILDS with Lego? If
> > they did, I can't imagine that they'd think removing an "organic" dark grey would be
> > a good thing for anyone that likes to add vegetation and rocks to their layouts.
> >
> > Perhaps the DL needs an infusion of Trainheads?
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> Again, I think you are misinterpreting organic. I really like organic colors,
> but to tell you the truth, I didn't as a kid. I was really into classic space,
> and brown and muted green didn't do it for me.
I'm not misinterpreting "organic" when applied to the old dark grey - it is much "warmer"
and "more organic" than dark bley (which is heavily "metallic").
> Your right about the trainheads,
> but now Jake is one of the biggest trainheads around (at least in the company)
> so that should help, shouldn't it?
It will only help if the DL listens to him, and actually asks him for input before making
another boneheaded decision.
--
Tom Stangl
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| (...) But you are misinterpreting the applicability of the WORD organic as Jake used it. It was used by Jake to describe the color introduction PROCESS, not anything about the colors themselves. (21 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
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| (...) Typically, when said like this, "organically" means that it grew without a plan, according to the needs of the time. Its sort of was a fashionable term in the computer/tech world in the last 5 years. And as Jake has been a web producer for (...) (21 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
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