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Re: Color Change background
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Date: 
Thu, 13 May 2004 16:59:38 GMT
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In lugnet.color, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
In lugnet.color, Christian Treczoks wrote:
Jake McKee wrote:

* Admitting that we made a mistake in our implementation
"Sorry, I dropped your baby".

Geez. That's a bit thick in my personal view.

   Agreed.

   I've been staying awfully quiet of late, in part because I've
   already made my opinion clear, done my public seething, and
   have now gone about adapting myself to what is coming down the
   pike.  Sure, it's lousy that this has happened to such useful
   colors, and sure, it throws those of us with huge collections
   of the superseded colors (cough cough) for a big ol' loop.

   But Christian overestimates the personal part of Jake in making
   this decision (which was, well, zero) and underestimates, I
   think, the sheer exertion he's going to in order to get some
   small space carved out in consideration of our numerically-small
   but vocal (and, I would argue, very important in the sense of
   being an ally in outreach and interest) group of enthusiasts.

   Unfortunately, the Design Lab people may not have fully grasped
   that the shift in color is something very different from adding
   plastic-conserving divots inside the brick, or improving clutch
   points, but the explanation Jake gives sounds reasonable, if
   sad.

Sorry, Jake, but it was really nothing really new in this post.

I failed to notice the promised "Good Thinking" - my error?

Yes, I think it *is* your error. You did "fail to notice"...

Jake *explained* why the Design Lab felt there was a strong need to change
things. You may not agree that it was a legitimate need to rationalise the
palette. That's fine. You might be right.

But to just *deny* that it was good thinking, and demand that people be fired...
That just doesn't strike me as useful. Spiteful maybe, but not useful.

I suspect that Jake spent some considerable internal political capital on our
behalf to get this level of detail and get it approved to be shared. These sorts
of vitriolic posts don't help him make the case upwards that it's WORTH sharing.

   Also wholeheartedly agreed here.  Express your discontent,
   sure, but why go into hyperbole?  Why make the same point
   that's been made over and over again, only with extra
   vitriol?  It doesn't help anyone, and I imagine that Jake
   (being a human being, and one I have unfortunately only
   met once) is probably popping antacids pretty quickly himself.
   Setting the messenger on fire is probably not the best way
   to do things--all it does is, well, set the messenger on fire.

   So I'll go on record (again) as applauding Jake's efforts
   (the service packs, the bulk pack survey [sadly without the
   classic colors], asking for feedback, and this), even while
   I'm tsk-tsking the Company as a whole for not understanding
   the need to stick to the color wheel and not make everything
   clash.  I've stopped fulminating here, and instead have
   taken my efforts to written letters, which usually mean a lot
   more than words on the Internet when it comes to companies.
   Politicians, too, though I understand big, scary crayon
   letters tend to get the *bad* kind of attention.

   all best

   LFB



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(...) I am well aware of the fact that Jake has no real influence on the way most of this worked out. I have stated this several times, although his "Good Thinking" and "I can't tell you details, but you will love this" is really getting on my (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color)

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(...) Geez. That's a bit thick in my personal view. (snipped a lot of stuff in the same vein) (...) Yes, I think it *is* your error. You did "fail to notice"... Jake *explained* why the Design Lab felt there was a strong need to change things. You (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color)

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