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  Re: The Knight Bus problem
 
(...) Maybe because it would cost money they currently don't have? Have you followed the news about Legos financial situation or the massive layoffs recently? (...) Maybe some kids don't. But the set makes Lego look cheap as in "cheap clone from (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Color Change background
 
OK since this is now 100% set in stone, perhaps there's one more thing that can be done : There is another run of pre-2004 sets, will they contain the new colors, and if so how can we recognize the difference from the outside. Is there any way a (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: The Knight Bus problem
 
(...) I agree, I don't think this particular set lives up to TLC's core values nor their quality policy as it is expressed in their latest annual report page 21 "In LEGO Company we aim to exceed our Consumer's expectations of our products, our (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Color Change background
 
As several others have stated, I too appreciate your efforts to explain the color changes. This explanation goes a long way in convincing us there were no other, hidden reasons beyond esthetical design. It explains the rol of the Design Lab and the (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: The Knight Bus problem
 
(...) When you answer this, you should propably point them to this page: (URL) and ask them on how their acceptance of obvious quality issues as within the limits can coexist with those core values. The big problem is that the whole production of (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: All toy companies are alike! (was Re: In Praise of TLC)
 
(...) Wow. That was nothing short of the funniest thing I've read on Lugnet. Very well done! :) Calum (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
 
  Re: Color Change background
 
(...) To me, the bad implementation should never have occured in the first place because of the consequences. You may be right on this, I still think they are aware of the terrible decision they took and they are just trying (through Jake) to (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Color Change background
 
(...) It is quite easy to make up your mind. Just build something in bley and white, and see for yourself how it looks like. Several others have already commented on this, but the best is to see this for yourself. Yours, Christian (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Color Change background
 
(...) Then I submit that the people making this decision are colorblind. Noone in their right mind would change dark grey to dark bley, and say they were DONE with the color palette changes, that they had brought the colors more inline. As others (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Color Change background
 
(...) I am well aware of the fact that Jake has no real influence on the way most of this worked out. I have stated this several times, although his "Good Thinking" and "I can't tell you details, but you will love this" is really getting on my (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Color Change background
 
(...) 100% Ack. This shortsighted decision to invent "universal" colours and assigning them to an inconsistent palette is a sure sign of headless activism by a management that did not understand the situation at all. All they have managed by this is (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Color Change background
 
(...) Yes, but he left anything out that I'd count as good thinking. He promised to explain complicated things, so complicated that he was not sure wether it would work out in text. But all he brought up was "They thought hard, and hard, and hard!" (...) (20 years ago, 13-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: Color Change background
 
(...) Typically, when said like this, "organically" means that it grew without a plan, according to the needs of the time. Its sort of was a fashionable term in the computer/tech world in the last 5 years. And as Jake has been a web producer for (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)
 
  Re: The Knight Bus problem (and bley)
 
(...) Oh, indeed. It is quite possible that the Design Lab and the Quality Control group see things a bit differently. Wouldn't it be funny if they all agreed all the time? As Jake mentioned, these are humans we are talking about. What makes you (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Color Change background
 
Jake, Thanks for explaining the situation. I'm sorry that some people are too knuckleheaded to act like anything but four year olds. Some people tend to forget, LEGO is a PRIVATELY HELD company. They can and will do whatever the hell they want with (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: All toy companies are alike! (was Re: In Praise of TLC)
 
In lugnet.color, Richie Dulin wrote: (snip) Wow... that's freaky. Insane coincidence or insidious plot??? Are all toy companies actually secretly controlled by the UFOs via Orbital Mind Control Lasers? (or was it via the Post Office and Texas?) (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
 
  All toy companies are alike! (was Re: In Praise of TLC)
 
(...) It's interesting you should ask about Mattel... because I went to TRU recently to buy my daughter a Barbie for her birthday. She's got several already, but she "really, really needs" another one. So there I was in the Barbie aisle of TRU (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color, lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: The Knight Bus problem (and bley)
 
(...) boys and girls aged 7-12 the play experience is in focus. The fact that the (...) So, if the kids don;'t care so much about color variation, why the change to bley? How can such a "minor" color change test "positively" if kids don't notice (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Color Change background
 
(...) I wouldn't say we've got the whole story, but we do have more of the story. Specifically Jake says: "As one part of the process of defining this new, long-term color palette, we tested the new color palette with children in the US and Germany. (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color, FTX)
 
  Re: Color Change background
 
(...) If you look carefully at what you are writing you might just see the flaw in your logic. 1st of all... Lego (through Jake) admitted an error in implementation... but were clear that they still believe in the colour change. How are they (...) (20 years ago, 14-May-04, to lugnet.color)


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