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Re: Nationalities of Themes - long post
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Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:48:18 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Kyle Peterson writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
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> > This would be Normans, not Vikings. Despite them really being housebroken
> > Vikings, the heraldic devices are that of France, not Scandanavia.
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> Vikings weren't Normans until they settled in Normandy.
I think we can safely say we have established that already.
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> It wasn't until @800 AD the Vikings truly started testing and attacking the
> Frankish borders. By @900AD the Vikings started to colonize northern France
> and it soon became Normandy.
Them darn Vikings were everywhere. Varangian guard for the Byzantines,
tricking their way into Italian cities ("Urm, big place, must be Rome, let's
sack it"), beseiging Paris, establishing Dublin, colonizing Kiev. I don't
think you give them enough credit. ;-)
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> Before that, they were Vikings and I'm pretty sure the Danes (at least) had a
> form of heraldic symbols, such as the falcon (denoted on their tunics).
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> I don't think you are giving the Vikings enough credit ;)
They weren't long on standardized livery to my knowledge. Post-Viking age
(mostly post Stamford Bridge) things change, of course.
Bruce
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| (...) Vikings weren't Normans until they settled in Normandy. It wasn't until @800 AD the Vikings truly started testing and attacking the Frankish borders. By @900AD the Vikings started to colonize northern France and it soon became Normandy. Before (...) (24 years ago, 2-Oct-00, to lugnet.castle)
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