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Re: I cannot connect to LDRAW.ORG - plz help!!!
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lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw
Date: 
Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:20:05 GMT
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Dan:

I wonder if it's just too many hops?

It is. There are 33 hops to www.ldraw.org (see below).

Isn't the default TTL for tcp/ip set for 30?

Yes, but how can you change it?

On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 10:24:39PM +0000, Franklin W. Cain wrote: • [...]
C:\WINDOWS>tracert www.ldraw.org

Tracing route to www.ldraw.org [130.226.51.217]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1   146 ms   137 ms   127 ms  209.215.193.130 • [...]
25   297 ms   252 ms   254 ms  dk-gw.nordu.net [193.10.252.46]
26   304 ms   255 ms   256 ms  FNET-LGB5.router.darenet.dk [130.225.245.5]
27   317 ms   248 ms   253 ms  KVL.router.darenet.dk [130.225.244.238]
28   299 ms   260 ms   256 ms  130.225.244.41
29   270 ms   265 ms   252 ms  130.225.244.37
30   282 ms   251 ms   255 ms  130.225.244.33

I did a traceroute from a machine in Copenhagen:

alf$ traceroute www.ldraw.org
traceroute to www.ldraw.org (130.226.51.217), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1  nbi-gw (130.225.212.1)  1 ms  0 ms  0 ms
2  teil1-3-gw.net.ku.dk (130.225.204.110)  2 ms  2 ms  1 ms
3  Panum.2.router.darenet.dk (130.225.244.130)  2 ms  1 ms  1 ms
4  HHK.router.darenet.dk (130.225.244.65)  2 ms  2 ms  2 ms
5  KVL.router.darenet.dk (130.225.244.249)  2 ms  2 ms  2 ms
6  130.225.244.41 (130.225.244.41)  2 ms  2 ms  2 ms
7  130.225.244.37 (130.225.244.37)  2 ms  2 ms  2 ms
8  130.225.244.33 (130.225.244.33)  3 ms  3 ms  3 ms
9  Riso.router.darenet.dk (130.225.244.245)  3 ms  3 ms  5 ms
10  130.225.244.186 (130.225.244.186)  4 ms  5 ms  4 ms
11  sys-323.risoe.dk (130.226.51.217)  4 ms  4 ms  4 ms

As you see from the router names, you need three more hops
to get to www.ldraw.org, but - now we get to the really
interesting part - when I do a traceroute from www.ldraw.org
to the first router in your trace (209.215.193.130), I find
a shorter path (the '-m 40' is to allow up to 40 hops):

sys-323$ traceroute -m 40 209.215.193.130
1  riso-unic (130.226.48.2)  1.257 ms  1.109 ms  1.122 ms
2  130.225.244.185 (130.225.244.185)  1.135 ms  0.998 ms  1.066 ms
3  Ruc.router.darenet.dk (130.225.244.246)  1.266 ms  1.231 ms  1.216 ms
4  130.225.244.34 (130.225.244.34)  1.544 ms  1.572 ms  1.512 ms
5  130.225.244.38 (130.225.244.38)  2.074 ms  2.272 ms  1.992 ms
6  130.225.244.42 (130.225.244.42)  2.903 ms  2.698 ms  2.471 ms
7  FNET.dk-gw7000.router.darenet.dk (130.225.244.237)  3.707 ms  4.471 ms ...
8  e-gw.nordu.net (193.10.252.93)  13.948 ms  13.429 ms  13.473 ms
9  sw-gw.nordu.net (193.10.252.211)  13.598 ms  14.090 ms  13.657 ms
10  us-gw2.nordu.net (193.10.252.186)  106.789 ms  106.434 ms  106.431 ms
11  if-6-0.core1.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (207.45.202.21)  106.827 ms  107.528...
12  if-2-0.core1.Chicago3.Teleglobe.net (207.45.222.210)  123.020 ms  123.1...
13  if-5-0-0.bb1.Chicago2.Teleglobe.net (207.45.222.214)  249.375 ms  276.0...
14  500.Serial0-1-1.GW4.CHI6.ALTER.NET (157.130.22.169)  131.355 ms  131.15...
15  115.ATM2-0.XR2.CHI6.ALTER.NET (146.188.209.150)  130.720 ms  130.287 ms...
16  190.at-2-1-0.TR2.CHI2.ALTER.NET (152.63.65.110)  133.521 ms  131.232 ms...
17  126.at-5-1-0.TR2.ATL5.ALTER.NET (152.63.0.213)  176.711 ms  176.886 ms ...
18  296.ATM5-0.XR2.ATL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.81.45)  189.877 ms  190.402 ms  1...
19  194.ATM5-0.GW6.ATL3.ALTER.NET (146.188.233.221)  178.322 ms  178.223 ms...
20  bs-stonemountain-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.72.54)  179.408 ms  179...
21  205.152.37.222 (205.152.37.222)  179.608 ms  179.559 ms  179.683 ms
22  209.215.193.130 (209.215.193.130)  178.923 ms *  178.461 ms

So there are 23 hops from www.ldraw.org to your machine (22
to the router + 1), but 33 hops from your machine to
www.ldraw.org. Annoying.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Indeed.

An ugly fix could be to set up your browser to use an HTTP
proxy placed slightly closer to www.ldraw.org than your own
machine.

Play well,

Jacob

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Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: I cannot connect to LDRAW.ORG - plz help!!!
 
"Jacob Sparre Andersen" <sparre@sys-323.risoe.dk> wrote in message news:FzMpLH.K8A@lugnet.com... (...) I have run a tracert from my machine here and there are 32 hops to www.ldraw.org, but I can pull the pages up fine. I don't have my browser using (...) (24 years ago, 6-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
  Re: I cannot connect to LDRAW.ORG - plz help!!!
 
"Jacob Sparre Andersen" <sparre@sys-323.risoe.dk> wrote in message news:FzMpLH.K8A@lugnet.com... (...) Jacob, there is a problem with your tracert - if you compare it to Frank's tracert and my own you'll see that the packets take different paths (...) (24 years ago, 7-Sep-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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  Re: I cannot connect to LDRAW.ORG - plz help!!!
 
I wonder if it's just too many hops? I can get there, takes me 29 hops... Isn't the default TTL for tcp/ip set for 30? Dan (...) (24 years ago, 20-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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