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| | | I have a half cylinder 6218 in front of me. It looks exactly like the partsref image for 6259. Partsref does not have an entry for 6218. The parts list from peeron.com identifies both as 'Cylinder 2 x 4 x 4'. Anyone know the difference between these (...) (24 years ago, 9-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) Hmm, interesting. My half-cylinders from the Star Wars Y-Wing are also 6218's. I wonder if this is a situation where there are two different molds for opaque and transparent pieces. Does anyone have some transparent pieces to check? I can (...) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Chris Dee
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| | | | (...) partsref (...) difference (...) I was able to lay my hands on 5 ClrDkBlue parts and all are marked 6259. And the grey ones on my Y-wing are 6218. IIRC the UFO quarter saucers used different mould numbers for the clear and opaque versions of (...) (24 years ago, 12-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Ray Sanders
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| | | | | (...) Is it safe to say that the image that we have for 6259 is identical (for our purposes) to the part moulded as 6218 ? Ray (24 years ago, 12-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) Yes. Steve (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Erik Olson
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| | | | | (...) I've been told LEGO has different molds for transparent bricks because of shrinkage. (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Ray Sanders
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| | | | | | (...) Ok, that begs a question that I've been wanting to ask: what is the natural color of ABS ? Transparent/Clear ? Second question: what is the additive that gives us different colors ? Ray fut to .general (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Ryan Farrington
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| | | | | | (...) natural (...) My dad is in the plastics and molding industry, and he told me that he has never heard of ABS in its natural color. If it has a natural color, it would probably be milky/yellow/white. Also, he said that Transparent /Clear ABS is (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Ray Sanders
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| | | | (...) I've seen this before but did not realize what was happening. The 'Container Box 2 x 2 x 2 Door with Slot' p/n 4346 in Light Grey (from Tie & Y-Wing) is marked 4346. The same part in Trans-Green (from 6180 Hydro Search Sub) is marked 30059. (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Chris Dee
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| | | | (...) marked (...) I think we should have a dat file for each number, so that if you read the part number from the part it is obvious whether or not a .dat file exists). One just needs to be a type 1 command to the other file. eg. 0 Container Box 2 (...) (24 years ago, 13-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Ray Sanders
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| | | | (...) Heres another data point for the list... 'Hinge Panel 2 x 4 x 3 & 1/3' which partsref lists as 2582, a trans-green piece has 6139 as the mould number. Oddly, a light-grey part (from Gungan Sub) has no visible mould number on it. Another (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Chris Dee
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| | | | (...) part (...) just (...) piece (...) no (...) piece (...) So, IMHO this makes them different parts, although at present the DAT file language does not have the capability to define textured surfaces. But, if we're making a catalog, 2507 - (...) (24 years ago, 14-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) Right. I'd rather have one file be a standard part file, and the other be a "shortcut" type file, meaning that the part name would be prepended with an underscore. I think we should *not* declare either the opaque or the transparent numbers to (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Chris Dee
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| | | | | (...) p/n (...) angle. (...) is (...) Good analysis, Steve - I agree wholeheartedly - Chris (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Ray Sanders
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| | | | | In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss writes: <snippage> (...) All along we have been using these numbers as 'part numbers', when actually they appear to be a mould number. What we are finding here is that there are 1-n mould numbers for each 'part shape'. (...) (24 years ago, 15-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Chris Dee
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| | | | | | (...) 1-n (...) present (...) we (...) of (...) not (...) In the main, I think they really are part numbers, considering the total number of parts there are very few exceptions, which I think can be explained by 1) some technical need for separate (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Ray Sanders
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| | | | | | | In lugnet.cad.dev, Chris Dee writes: <snips> (...) Correct. The actual mould number is probably the composite of the 4/5 digit number and the X-XX number (usually first appears as 1-01). I would guess that the X-XX number has to do with the actual (...) (24 years ago, 18-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) Another thing to keep in mind: we're seeing the results of a system changing over time. It appears that TLC has changed its part-numbering strategy at least twice over the years, with some other minor adjustments occuring along the way. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 18-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | | | | | Re: Whats the difference between 6218 and 6259 ? —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) This just in: there's a light gray 4x4 dish from the Life on Mars Red Mecha (sorry, I don't have the number handy). It has a part number: 3960. I guess that goes toward supporting my note of caution: (...) Steve (24 years ago, 18-Mar-01, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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