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On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 12:28:12 -0600, Moish Brenman wrote (in message <Fxwon0.LD1@lugnet.com>): (...) (snip) I like the amount of detail you put into the designs. Looks great! Ben Ben Vaughan buster@marsbase.com (URL) (25 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 20:10:53 -0600, Joel Foreman wrote (in message <Fxz4q5.2MK@lugnet.com>): (...) Very nice! I like the fledgling arc you have going! Ben Ben Vaughan buster@marsbase.com (URL) Thanks, Ben Ben Vaughan buster@marsbase.com (URL) (25 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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(...) Just say on your web site "I was inspired by So-and-so's cool design for the blah blah part of this castle." (...) Well, and of course point (D), which is that even if they say no, it's not like they have a legal (or perhaps even moral) claim (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground, lugnet.admin.general)
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Well, welcome back! I suppose Im the only one paying attention, since everyone else is bickering over copyrighting... Thats a real shame, because you have some sweet models! You used a great approach to small, yet extrmemly functional mecha- and you (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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(...) You're thinking trademark. Mladen has (at least in the US) a copyright over anything he has created. One can *register* a copyright, which makes it much easier to defend in a court of law, but one does not need to register to actually hold a (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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Hi everyone. My name's Joel. I'm a re-born Lego-phyte, a direct result of my Star Wars freakishness. When the Hasbro stuff got hard to find, I started snapping up SW sets. The romance was rekindled, and I retrieved some of my old Lego (doesn't every (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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(...) I just about fainted when I saw this picture... (URL) I realized that it was a view from the back rather than the front. ;-) --Todd (25 years ago, 20-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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(...) <snip> (...) Me and mark were in our little lego chat room the other night when he showed me his new VTOL called the Kingfisher. I saw it and told him cool and that that was the name of a very cool VTOl by Ben Vaughn. Mark said, "really, i'll (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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mladen- oh calm down! what's the matter big boy? someone not love you enough? asking for your honest input as a builder i respect only to be answered with mocking disdain is COMPLETELY uncalled for! if i were kingsley i'd ban you and your (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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So am I supposed to reply to everything that is posted on LUGNET. Fine, I'll humour you: Wow, that's the coolest models ever made! I really can't wait 'til you build some more! Hope you're happy! (...) that (...) peoples' (...) respond (...) impact (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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(...) looking (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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Random thoughts. 1. Mladen, you're a lego genius. I went to your web page and was knocked out. 2. Geniuses are allowed a bit of slack in my book to be temperamental. :^) 3. Still, I think that you would be better served by relaxing and toning down (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground, lugnet.admin.general)
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Thanks Pat! I told you guys that the rest would be kinda crappy, oh well... BTW the jaws can completely close, this is done by off-setting by half a stud, and then off-setting them 1/5 a stud, download the .dat to see what I'm talking about! (...) (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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Yeah, it was, wasn't it! LOL! (...) a (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.admin.general)
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That was really unnecessary. ~Mark (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.admin.general)
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Pretty sweet Mladen! Very monstor-ish. I like the use of a short and long antennae next to each other. It has been a feature of some models that I really liked and I also use it myself. I also really like the complexity of this model, it almost (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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(URL) Mark, are you gonna copy this model too, but I think I already gave you a head start with the body, since I showed you all the legs a week ago! Mladen Pejic, over and out! (URL) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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(...) Copying it and claiming credit, sure, that's not nice. But just copying the idea is _fine_. (...) This may be copyright infringement. Taking those dat files and building a model from them wouldn't be. (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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(...) So you've filled out the appropriate paper work, sent in your money to the copyright offices and waited 6 or so months for the copyright aproval of your 'product'? If not, I have some extra copyright forms you could use... ~Nathan (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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(...) that (...) laser (...) surprise- (...) one is there, start making you own weapons and face me in a voting no holds barred soon enough... (URL) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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(...) I tell ya, that's all I want to do right now, especially after this bombshell I dropped. Mladen, you're entitled to wanting to keep your designs yours, but your behavior and language is way out of line. Shouting and swearing at folks for (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground, lugnet.admin.general)
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well said patrick. it seems strange to me that someone would get THAT upset about a "crime" that hasn't evn been committed, especilly when you consider that the whole mech (oops, excuse me i mean MECHA) thing is "borrowed" from or influenced by (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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(...) The only way to guarantee this is to not publish your pictures. Ron Sedlmeyer (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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(...) Mladen, I agree with you to a point on this one, but I have to say not fully. I understand your frustration at having someone copy a design which I'm assuming to quite a bit of time to develope, judging by its complexity. I have no problem (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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(...) that's (...) First of all, I am not a lawyer. All of the following is based on a general understanding of the law from a layman's point of view. That being said, I'll continue As DAT's are plain text, to my understanding they can be (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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Woah! Take it easy Mladen. Designing models with LEGO and sharing them is lot like the entertainment industry; there is no theft it is just influence or people making tributes to a source of inspiration. This is the way you should look at it, (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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jeez kiddies- isn't it about time we all started playing nicey nicey? i mean i may be a newbie or whatever, but copyrights and patents? what the hell are we talking about here? mark and mladen both of you do awesome work- who cares who "steals" from (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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(...) This _really_ doesn't apply. Copyright covers published works -- you certainly have copyright over the image you posted to brickshelf, but that's all. A patent might apply to the design, but you don't have one of those. Also, even for things (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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(...) Yes, I do copy ideas. I try to give credit when I do. See my recent .space post regarding the Storm Owl (named for a Mega Man X4 character, not anything of yours.) where I give Colin full credit for his engine design. I also designed the (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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You know, at the rate I am turning off newsgroups lately I'm not going to have much to read pretty soon. Lets calm down folks, Please. Followups to lugnet.admin.general Eric Kingsley (...) e-mails (...) them (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Somehow I doubt that copyright laws apply in this instance. This isn't a case of someone stealing an idea and making money from it. This is a case of someone wanting to use someone else's design for their own enjoyment. I agree that you should (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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- Insert 4 letter word - YOU WHO ---- do u think you are Mark! You copy so many ideas from everyone here and barely give credit (Storm Owl sure looks and sounds like my own OWL MOC)! AND EVER HEARD OF SOMETHING CALLED COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT!!! (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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<CLAPPING> Beautiful, nicely worded James! I let James use my models, because he has the decency to first ask me before he does anything, if he could actually USE my model. Then, when he put it on his wonderfully organized and cool website, he (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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(...) I think that Mladen would have difficulty stopping them, but he doesn't have to post DATs or endorse their actions. I've used some of his VTOL models, and I think he'd be right to share what he has, but he doesn't have to. We do have copyright (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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Thanks! But that wasn't the VTOL I just updated. :^) Scroll to the bottom and check out the Storm Owl... that's the new one. ~Mark (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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(...) Actually that's not true. Anyone can copy your designs if they want to. You don't have to like it, but that's how it is. (...) That's too bad. If someone made something using a design of my own, I'd feel very flattered. Sometimes I borrow (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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anyone know if he is still building? he did such awesom work, but haven't seen anything new from him in a while... just checking (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha)
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i'd have to agree with mladen on this one- the whole point of lego is creativity. i'd take the same approach i do with TLC models- build a copy first to familiarize yourself with any new pieces and their useage, then proceed to invent your own uses. (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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Mark- one word: STOKED! i've always dug your stuff (the Maddog especially), but the VTOL Dropship is magnificent- all the things i personally strive for in building- clean, detailed but not overly "tekkie", functional, structural, and the (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.space, lugnet.build.mecha)
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I would reconsider if he was the only person to ask me, but I get 10 e-mails each day from people asking me how they love my designs and want to use them in their own. Most of the messages I reply to with a yes, but this time no, this is my model, (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-00, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.underground)
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