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| | | [OOC = Our Own Creation] Today Adrian Drake, Troy and Ken Cefaratti, Gino Melone and I got together at Adrian's house for a building session. Upon seeing my Mercury, Adrian reiterated his desire to build his own car, a Jeep Cherokee, sometime. Since (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.announce.moc, lugnet.town, lugnet.build, lugnet.modelteam, lugnet.technic, lugnet.org.us.bloc, lugnet.loc.us.oh) !!
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Eric Sophie
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| | | | | That is so great guys! wow it looks so good! And all the details, plus e the unussual way the parts go together. All around solid job, wow, Definetly a great job. Mmmmmhhhhhhmmmmmm...... Legomaster (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Mine's Snottier —Steven Lane
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| | | | | (...) Great model Bram (and team), you've got the looks just right but I wouldn't describe it as having an abundance of snot more an absence of it. This groups probably tired of my bulldozer by now but it's totaly embraced the snot concept. (URL) (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | Re: Mine's Snottier —Adrian Drake
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| | | | | | | (...) The trim is upsidedown for two reasons. The trapezoidal wheel arches look much better that way (as I only have inverse tall slopes in black) and in order to get the look of the grill right, the headlights are upside-down, so in order to secure (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | Re: Mine's Snottier —Adrian Drake
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| | | | | | (...) The entire front and rear ends are snotted. It doesn't show, but grill has bricks going on all sorts of strange directions. Just because the roof's on studs up doesn't mean there's lots underneath that isn't. It's just well hidden :) Adrian (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | The model is very well done! The things I like about it are too many to mention, so I hope you are not offended if I mention the things I don't like. I think the chassis is too tall. The real thing doesn't have that much suspension, right? Besides, (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Adrian Drake
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| | | | | | (...) WHAT? You dare criticize Bram and Me? Why this will start a flame war of epic proportions!!! (j/k) Criticism is just fine. Keep in mind, though that we built this in one day, so there are lots of things that could've been done differently if (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Steve Runnels
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| | | | | (...) Have you driven over a Ford lately? :D (Yah, yah, Ford, Mercury, same difference...) :P ---SteveR (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Shiri Dori
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| | | | | Hey guys, Awesome job, that is one cool car. I'm still trying to figure out at what points exactly does the chassis (upside down studs) meet the rest of the model (right side up studs). It's a real beauty, and I thought the black katanas as (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Adrian Drake
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| | | | | | | (...) Actually, none of my samurai use the black swords, they're all grey or green, so nobody's unarmed :) (...) The upside down part of the lower trim (the wheel arches and the part right below the doors) is a one plate offset from the rest of the (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | (...) Only the fenders and trim are upside down. The floor pan is studs up, and the side trim is attached like this: (URL) rest of the trim and the fenders are attached using similar methods. The reason we had to do the 2/5 stud offset is because (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Jason Spears
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| | | | | (...) Wow! That is sweet. Very accurate. I love it. -Jason PS Per Fredrik's comments of the the chasis being too tall, and the wheels being too big... Would it be fair to say that Adrian's Jeep has been lifted and has big ol' mud boggin' tires, (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Troy Cefaratti
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| | | | | | (...) lifted and (...) the (...) Adrian's jeep is not lifted, but it was a concious decision on their part (Adrian and Bram) to make that modification to the model. (In my opinion, it looks cooler that way. I'm just disappointed that they didn't get (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Joe Meno
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| | | | | Wow! I love the attention to detail this OOC has! Lots of little touches like the radio and dashboard make this model really beautiful. And it appears motorized....aw man. Really well done! Joe (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Troy Cefaratti
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| | | | | I'm beginning to think that EVERYTHING that Adrian builds will have a Ninja Sword on it somewhere.... Troy' "Bram Lambrecht" <bram@cwru.edu> wrote in message news:GsDtMo.5uD@lugnet.com... (...) at (...) Since (...) well (...) pictures (...) figuring (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Adrian Drake
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| | | | | | Is there anything wrong with that? The ninja sword is a perfectly acceptable element :) Adrian (...) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Tobbe Arnesson
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| | | | | (...) <<snip>> (...) You ppl. rock! Nice work, thanks for the inspiration :) /Tobbe (URL) (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Melody Brown
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| | | | | (...) <cut> (...) Great Jeep!... now when do we get to go for a test drive? ;) I like this more than Technic styled vehicles... looks more 'realistic' (Technic, yeah yeah....). Mel (sorry, not a Technic fan except R2D2 and the new Darth Vader). (23 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —David Martineau
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| | | | | In lugnet.technic, Bram Lambrecht writes: <SNIP> the images are on Brickshelf (...) Bram, et al., That is one _fine_ looking model! So many functions; such a clean, stylized look. Just about Jennifer caliber... The doors open, the hood, the cargo (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | RE: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | (...) Thanks! This is mostly a "Model Team" creation though, it doesn't have quite as many of the Technic components Jennifer would include, nor does it have a good Technic frame...although with a little more work, it probably could. We got kind of (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.technic)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Joseph Woolley
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| | | | | Very nice! There is so much that can be said about it; but I will keep it short. Excellent work on the body. Lots of detail. Good color selection (the interior is great). - Joe "Bram Lambrecht" <bram@cwru.edu> wrote in message (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Reinhard "Ben" Beneke
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| | | | | (...) Wow!! Top model of this week for sure. Kind Regards, Ben (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Dennis Bosman
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| | | | | Hi Bram, Well done! Nice details! Keep up the good work. I really like those 'small' models (small, because mine are much bigger as you know). I want to build a 1:13 scale Opel Corsa for my DAF 95XF ballast trailer truck. The car is used to drive (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | RE: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | (...) Thanks! Getting praise from all the other great truck builders out there means a lot to me. By my calculations, the Cherokee is about 1:15-1:16 scale. My Diablo is about 1:14-1:15, my 12 wides are about 1:20, and the 8 wides are about (...) (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Adrian Drake
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| | | | | | (...) *whips out the trusty tape measure* It's actually just under 1:15 (1:14.88) according to my length measurements, though it's a little too wide and a little tall for its length (but we won't worry about that now, will we?) Adrian (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Troy Cefaratti
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| | | | | | For some reason I feel the need to let everyone know that these two used digital calipers when measuring the pictures. Just to get the scale right. Crazy engineers! Troy "Adrian Drake" <tremor@apk.net> wrote in message news:GsGn8q.86I@lugnet.com... (...) (23 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | The Jeep Cherokee is now available on my website. Please rate the model to let me know what you think of it! (URL) Lambrecht bram@cwru.edu www.bldesign.org (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.announce.moc, lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Steven Combs
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| | | | | | (...) details. Small details have always been a challenge to me, but reviewing the work of others is giving me some wonderful tips and tricks. Steven B. Combs, Editor Bricks in my Pocket (BimP) (URL) Information: (URL) member #414 (23 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —A. Mark Wilburn
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| | | | | Bram, you know it's frightening when you click on a thumbnail thinking it's either the real thing or a scale model kit used for reference, only to find out it's actually LEGO. How do you *do* that? Mark W. (23 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | RE: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | A. Mark Wilburn: (...) Thanks, Mark! (...) Practice. Seriously. The more you try to build with parts in odd orientations, the better you get at it. Oh, and it seems I almost always start with the grill and the front fenders...those are the most (...) (23 years ago, 6-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —A. Mark Wilburn
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| | | | | | (...) That's not the hard part... (...) That's why I try to, but somewhere after the grill and hood I can't get the fenders to look right, or the doors for that matter (you're right, hollow studs don't look any better than inverted plates. And the (...) (23 years ago, 6-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | | RE: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | (...) One idea that Adrian came up with for this model, which worked really great, especially because there are two doors on each side, was a half-stud rearward offset for the rear doors. This leaves a half stud gap between the rear edge of the door (...) (23 years ago, 7-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Ed Hall
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| | | | | Wow! As both an AFOJ (Adult fan of Jeeps) and the owner of a blue Grand Cherokee I especially enjoyed seeing your amazingly detailed model. The detail is amazing (OK, so whose idea was it to use swords for the windshield wipers? =) -Ed (URL) (23 years ago, 6-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | RE: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | (...) That was Adrian's idea. He seems to use swords everywhere! :) Adrian came up with quite a few part selections that would never have crossed my mind. --Bram Bram Lambrecht bram@cwru.edu www.bldesign.org (23 years ago, 7-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Adrian Drake
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, well I have more pieces than you, so I can think of weird things like this :) And there's nothing wrong with making judicious use of a wonderful element like the ninja swords. Adrian (23 years ago, 7-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Adrian Drake
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| | | | In case anyone's interested, I've created a brickshelf folder with version 2 of the Jeep Cherokee. It features larger balloon tires, cosmetic shocks, a modified steering system, and a reinforced front bumper (which you can't see, but it's there (...) (23 years ago, 17-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | RE: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | (...) the false engine too? Suddenly the original wheels--which were already oversize--look tiny! Not sure which I prefer. --Bram Bram Lambrecht bram@cwru.edu www.bldesign.org (23 years ago, 17-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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| | | | | | Re: New OOC: Motorized 14 wide Jeep Cherokee —Adrian Drake
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| | | | (...) In order to make the big wheels fit, I had to widen the steering arms from 10 studs to 12. The big tires would've hit the frame otherwise. I also had to lower the steering assembly and make it narrower so that I could squeeze the shocks in. As (...) (23 years ago, 17-Mar-02, to lugnet.build)
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