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Re: The 2001 lineup (list on FBTB)
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lugnet.admin.terms
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Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:28:33 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.terms, Selçuk Göre writes:
> [...] So I think that you must have some idea about whether something is
> against that written document or not. Where is the gray area in that? [...]
In 99% of cases, I'm sure I have a very good idea. But the 1% left over is
gray because it basically says, "don't break the law" (i.e., local laws or
whatever laws may apply in whatever circumstance is in question) and "the law"
is something externally defined.
Let me give an analogy. Let's say you run a restaurant and one of your rules
is "No killing people in this restaurant, or you won't be welcome anymore."
Now, basically that says don't break the law, assuming that murder is illegal.
But what you're saying is, if someone commits what the law defines to be
murder in your restaurant, you're going to not allow them in your restaurant
ever again. So, if someone kills someone else in self-defense and that law
finds that it wasn't murder, then they haven't broken any of your rules.
Basically what the LUGNET T&C refer to when they talk about infringing upon
other people's right is: Go ahead and do what you feel is safe and morally
and legally right, but if you screw up and get caught with something that the
law would frown on, then game over. Laws are changing every day, and whether
or not a given party objects to something is up to that party. There's no
bow-tie answer here -- it's actually rather Libertarian, if I understand
Libertarianism w.r.t. this sort of thing: You can do whatever you want, as
long as you don't hurt other people. (And "hurt" can never be defined in
black and white terms, so that's why it's often wise to err on the safe side.)
--Todd
p.s. IANAL and the above is not legal advice.
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| (...) Very close, which is close enough. As you say, it's the gray areas that are hard, and sometimes there is no course of action from "here" to "there" that is perfect and doesn't step on SOMEONE's toes. ++Lar (...) That disclaimer applies to me (...) (24 years ago, 22-Aug-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
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| (...) Sorry Todd, but I think I'm really missing something. I thought we are not talking about The Law, but The T&C. It is a written document authored by you. So I think that you must have some idea about whether something is against that written (...) (24 years ago, 21-Aug-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
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