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Can we define flogging?
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lugnet.admin.terms
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Fri, 17 Mar 2000 00:45:58 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.terms, Mike Stanley writes:
> > The distinction between auctions and regular sales is bigger and clearer
> > than the distinction between regular sales and other quasi-market-related
> > things --
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> Really? Not in my opinion.
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> Auction: Seller is selling something to the highest bidder.
> Sale: Seller is selling something for a set price to the first (?)
> person willing to pay the price.
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> Yeah, auctions are different from sales, in execution. But the result
> is the same - the item is sold by one person to another person.
Rephrased statement: There are many more types and classes of non-auction
market transactions than there are types and classes of auction transactions.
> I see the distinction between "I have ___ to sell - here's what I'll
> take for it" and "hey, TRU has this set people are looking for - I'll
> sell them for cost plus whatever" as being MUCH clearer than the
> difference between someone selling or auctioning something.
Heh heh! And how do you define that "plus whatever" part? :-) "Hey, TRU
has this set people are looking for -- I'll sell them for cost plus whatever
other goodies and/or offers people would be willing to make in place of cash.
Oh, and BTW, I'm desperately seeking old Castle sets #xxx and #yyy, if you
have that to trade."
I'm feeling a lot of agreement with Frank's sentiment (and yours too, I think).
As time goes on, it seems that people are having a more and more difficult
time remembering the difference between auction and non-auction w.r.t. the
LTUA. I do believe that if the LTUA explicitly disallowed non-auction flogs
as well as auction-flogs outside of the market area, the total amount of
confusion and unhappiness could be lowered.
Right now, when someone posts a misplaced auction flog, there are two aspects
open to debate: (1) Is it or is it not a flog? and (2) Is it or is it not an
auction? If the LTUA were changed to disallow all types of market flogs, then
this would reduce to only one aspect open to debate -- the first one.
The challenge would be (and let's open this up to suggestions) to define
flogging.
We'd first want to limit any type of annoying buy-sell-trade flog (we all know
these when we see them! but they're hard to define) to the .market.* subtree,
and additionally as a subset, to limit any type of auction flog to
.market.auction only.
Finally, without diminshing the foregoing restrictions, an exception to these
two rules must allowed in the case of private organizations with mailing lists
hosted at LUGNET under an .org portion of the ng tree. These organizations
must be able to set and enforce their own rules w.r.t. flogs -- allowing
auctions and other market flogs if they so choose.
--Todd
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Message has 2 Replies:
 | | Re: Can we define flogging?
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| It depends on what the definition of "flogging" is. Sorry, couldn't resist! :) Scott S. F.U.T. off-topic.fun or debate ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
| | | Re: Can we define flogging?
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| Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) quasi-market-related (...) transactions. (...) whatever (...) cash. (...) From a market perspective, these types of posts probably belong in buy-sell-trade. I think it is reasonable to ask in shopping "could (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
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| | Re: Royal Knights treasure Carrier 6044 and others
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| (...) Really? Not in my opinion. Auction: Seller is selling something to the highest bidder. Sale: Seller is selling something for a set price to the first (?) person willing to pay the price. Yeah, auctions are different from sales, in execution. (...) (25 years ago, 17-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
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