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Re: Message-ID -> Article number
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lugnet.admin.nntp
Date: 
Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:57:21 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote:
> 
> [redirecting to .admin.nntp]
> 
> In lugnet.admin.general, Fredrik Glöckner writes:
> > In USENET, an article is refered to by it's Message-ID.  Now, LUGNET
> > is not USENET, and here articles are normally refered to by the
> > article number on the server.  This makes it a bit hard for me (or
> > anyone else who reads from the SMTP or NNTP interface) to refer to
> > articles.
> > 
> > Say I am writing an article and want to refer to an older article by
> > myself or anybody else.  I know the Message-ID of the article in
> > question, but I cannot find the article number on the LUGNET server
> > unless I fire up my dial up connection and start searching for it.
> > And with the search function out of order, this is quite hard.
> > 
> > So what I would like is a way to refer to articles on LUGNET by their
> > Message-ID.  For example something like this:
> > 
> >     http://news.lugnet.com/message.id/<Message-ID>
> > 
> > So that I can simply plug in the Message-ID and post a link to it.
> 
> I would really hate to see NNTP Message ID's floating around in HTTP URLs.
> 
> A workaround is simply to use a standardized NNTP URL format -- for example:
> 
>    news://lugnet.com/qrd1yv57q2n.fsf@eos.uio.no

I'd hate to see these sorts of references. I'm not always browsing the
web interface in a browser that I want the news reader to come up in
(and such a reference will be useless to anyone who can't access the
nntp server).

> That's postable as-is.
> 
> Or, if you want to convert that to an HTTP URL, it's as easy as looking at
> the Xref header on the message served directly from the NNTP server, which
> in the above case is:
> 
>    Xref: lugnet.com lugnet.admin.general:8505
> 
> and simply transmogrify that into:
> 
>    http://news.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.admin.general,8505
> 
> which automagically redirects to:
> 
>    http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=8505

I'd love to see a header which directly included this URL, it would make
life a little easier.

--
Frank Filz

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Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Message-ID -> Article number
 
(...) It would still not solve the problem of refering to an article which is refered to by an article you have. Say you have a bunch of LUGNET articles downloaded locally. You want to refer to the parent of an article you have, but you don't have (...) (26 years ago, 19-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
  Re: Message-ID -> Article number
 
(...) Something like X-Message-Archive: (URL) be very nice. --Todd (26 years ago, 19-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)

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  Re: Message-ID -> Article number
 
[redirecting to .admin.nntp] (...) I would really hate to see NNTP Message ID's floating around in HTTP URLs. A workaround is simply to use a standardized NNTP URL format -- for example: news://lugnet.com/qr...eos.uio.no That's postable as-is. Or, (...) (26 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.nntp)

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