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Re: Message-ID -> Article number
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lugnet.admin.nntp
Date: 
Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:57:21 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote:

[redirecting to .admin.nntp]

In lugnet.admin.general, Fredrik Glöckner writes:
In USENET, an article is refered to by it's Message-ID.  Now, LUGNET
is not USENET, and here articles are normally refered to by the
article number on the server.  This makes it a bit hard for me (or
anyone else who reads from the SMTP or NNTP interface) to refer to
articles.

Say I am writing an article and want to refer to an older article by
myself or anybody else.  I know the Message-ID of the article in
question, but I cannot find the article number on the LUGNET server
unless I fire up my dial up connection and start searching for it.
And with the search function out of order, this is quite hard.

So what I would like is a way to refer to articles on LUGNET by their
Message-ID.  For example something like this:

    http://news.lugnet.com/message.id/<Message-ID>

So that I can simply plug in the Message-ID and post a link to it.

I would really hate to see NNTP Message ID's floating around in HTTP URLs.

A workaround is simply to use a standardized NNTP URL format -- for example:

   news://lugnet.com/qrd1yv57q2n.fsf@eos.uio.no

I'd hate to see these sorts of references. I'm not always browsing the
web interface in a browser that I want the news reader to come up in
(and such a reference will be useless to anyone who can't access the
nntp server).

That's postable as-is.

Or, if you want to convert that to an HTTP URL, it's as easy as looking at
the Xref header on the message served directly from the NNTP server, which
in the above case is:

   Xref: lugnet.com lugnet.admin.general:8505

and simply transmogrify that into:

   http://news.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.admin.general,8505

which automagically redirects to:

   http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=8505

I'd love to see a header which directly included this URL, it would make
life a little easier.

--
Frank Filz

-----------------------------
Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Message-ID -> Article number
 
(...) It would still not solve the problem of refering to an article which is refered to by an article you have. Say you have a bunch of LUGNET articles downloaded locally. You want to refer to the parent of an article you have, but you don't have (...) (24 years ago, 19-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
  Re: Message-ID -> Article number
 
(...) Something like X-Message-Archive: (URL) be very nice. --Todd (24 years ago, 19-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)

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  Re: Message-ID -> Article number
 
[redirecting to .admin.nntp] (...) I would really hate to see NNTP Message ID's floating around in HTTP URLs. A workaround is simply to use a standardized NNTP URL format -- for example: news://lugnet.com/qr...eos.uio.no That's postable as-is. Or, (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.nntp)

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