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In lugnet.admin.general, Eric Kingsley writes:
> 2. I have accepted the fact that Matthew is going to be banned and I am OK
> with that. I just want to make sure everything has been thought through
> first. This is a precedent setting move and I think you (Todd) need to be
> very careful in the way you handle the issue because people will refer back
> to this discussion for years to come as other situations arrise.
It's very difficult -- and I'm not even going to try -- to sum everything up
in a nice simple pat statement (not that you're asking for one), since, to
various extents, I agree with almost everything that everyone here has said.
My opinions are most in line with these posts which stood out in my mind as
I got caught up on reading today:
http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=6688
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=8125
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=8016
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=8039
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=8060
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=8042
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=8000
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=8095
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=8100
http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=8119
In terms of a bottom line, take the sandbox-in-the-backyard analogy. "There's
always one in the crowd." Occasionally there is just going to be some bully
or troublemaker in the neighborhood who simply refuses to play well with
others. For whatever deep underlying reasons, they can't or don't want to
get along and clearly don't belong. They can go start their own sandbox and
play in it and make up whatever rules best fit them. Maybe others will go
join them...fine...not here.
At this time, Matthew is persona non grata. Not for his opinions, not for
what he has on his website, and not for his being personally disliked by many
people, but for how he has intentionally disrupted peace and harmony, attacked
people, used foul language, made what are judged by many to be threats,
admitted that he plotted to cause a large commotion, and relished in self-
described past mischief elsewhere. Those are things that this site is not
about. Although we the community have generally been tolerant of a little
vitriol here and there, never before has someone calculatedly done so much
in such a short amount of time.
That's where things stand.
--Todd
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| (...) <snip? (...) OK quick question(1). Now I don't think many/any of us know much of Matthew other than he has some personal issues to work out and that he likes to cause havoc. So here's the question. Assume that Matthew is say 14 and he is (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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