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Re: .market.auction & crossposting
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lugnet.admin.general
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Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:38:14 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Todd Lehman wrote:
> > I'd like to improve the server's ability to automatically enforce the
> > "no-auctions outside of auction groups" rule.
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> I think this is a bad idea and the post I just did to market.auction is
> a prime example of why.
Is what you did the only way to start such a discussion? For example, what
about posting the actual auction announcement first in .market.auction
(where it technically belongs, according to the T&C for discussion groups),
then posting the important bits separately and simply refer to the auction
posting in place of the other link.
> At least *I* think it is. It is about an
> auction, but it's far more significant (at least I think it is) as
> something new in our little world than as just another flog.
Heh heh. OK, it is more significant than just an ordinary auction
announcement, no doubt about that. But by your rationale, you could have
included a recipe for peanut butter and jelly sandwiches beneath your
auction URL and justified crossposted it to .off-topic.yummy-foods.recipes.
I can completely understand it if you see it that way, but answer me this:
Did you not just (how do I word this without sounding pedantic?) break the
T&C? You announced an auction, yes? So by definition, that's an auction
announcement, right?
> In fact it's not a flog,
I don't know what a flog(n) is, so I can't agree or disagree with that.
> there's no solicitation of bidding in it, unlike my standard flogs.
Hmmm. I have respectfully disagree with the assertion that there is no
solicitation of bidding in it. Absent of a disclaimer to the contrary,
I think it is a solicitation of bidding. Any post where the first thirteen
characters of the Subject go
Subject: [FA] - eBay -
and contains a URL of an actual auction currently underway within the first
few lines, is clearly a solicitation of bidding, isn't it?
And if it's not, but then what does the subject line alone say?
(a) Subject: [FA] - eBay - Lego CUSTOM: - Unique 4 axle custom Hopper
(b) Subject: Discussion: Historic new auction lot
Food for thought.
--Todd
> See a standard flog of mine:
> http://www.lugnet.com/market/auction/?n=3398
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> See the append in question:
> http://www.lugnet.com/market/auction/?n=3608
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> Note carefully the followups that were set. Note also the discussion
> that has ensued, which is theoretical in nature.
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| This is one of those "there are many sides to this issue" things. I think that Larry's intent is something that is reasonable. I also see the purpose of the "no auction announcements in groups which don't welcome them", with zero tolerance (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| To the viewing audience: I'm sparring with Todd here in this particular instance because it's fun to see two pedants clash, not because I have some major beef... He's mostly right but you'll never get me to admit it. (...) Arguably it's not the only (...) (25 years ago, 13-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) I think this is a bad idea and the post I just did to market.auction is a prime example of why. At least *I* think it is. It is about an auction, but it's far more significant (at least I think it is) as something new in our little world than (...) (25 years ago, 12-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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