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Re: COMPLETE LIST OF NEW SETS FOR 2000
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Tue, 7 Dec 1999 02:30:32 GMT
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I would have to say that I whole-heartedly agree with Mike on this issue.
Power to the AFOL people! Long live Huw! And email me for the scans, I'll
happily distribute them to everyone.
Mark L
P.S. Todd you are doing a great job that is largely thankless. You are the
life blood of LUGNET, but you must realize that in that role you can not be
the common AFOL. Your words carry much more weight here and if you feel the
need to seperate yourself from sysadmin perhaps a different name should be
used to address those fan-based opinions you wish to share.
In lugnet.admin.general, Mike Stanley writes:
> Todd Lehman <admin@lugnet.com> wrote:
> > Note that Suzanne was posting her own opinion on her own behalf as a good-
> > intentioned LEGO fan, and perhaps she forgot to add explicitly that she
> > wasn't representing the position of LUGNET, but I figured that was obvious
> > since she posted from an @media.mit.edu address, not a @lugnet.com address.
> > Technically, also, I don't think she really even can represent the position
> > of LUGNET while she's still in school at the Lab.
>
> I don't want to get into the whole "if you and Suz say you really
> want someone to do something that doesn't necessarily mean they have
> to do it or become persona non grata around LUGNET" issue because,
> to some extent, I don't think it's worth arguing, although I do
> believe that it could happen.
>
> What I will say is that a) I never look at someone's e-mail address,
> and I bet most other people don't as well - we look at WHO is
> posting, b) even if you choose to post from another e-mail account I
> don't believe that it magically transforms you into another person.
> You are Todd Lehman. You OWN LUGNET. You can't stop owning it, and
> to a very great extent, you can't post something like a suggestion
> and not expect it to be taken as coming from Todd LUGNET Lehman.
> You can't, and it's stilly to think you can, and it's even more
> silly to think that simply posting from one e-mail account or
> another would convey that disclaimer at all, imo.
>
> I've seen you stress before "this is from me the fan not me the
> sysadmin" and it still doesn't fully wash with me, not fully. I can
> accept it, but normally that's because you go a little overboard in
> trying to make it clear that (at least in your mind) you have split
> yourself in half and hold two opinions.
>
> But to even begin to think that because you or Suz post from one
> e-mail account or another that your words will be perceived
> differently is, to me, one of the funniest things I've heard in a
> while.
>
> The reality, imo, is Suz DID hit Huw like a ton of bricks. Not in a
> mean way, not in an especially domineering way, but it was VERY
> clear what she wanted to happen. It's also very clear that she is
> very important to you, as well she should be, probably the most
> important person around in your opinion. You seemed to mostly share
> the same opinion (no need to repeat your split
> opinions/personalities - I mostly caught on last night) and that
> suggested (to me as a reader and obviously to more than one or two
> other people) that what we were hearing last night were akin to
> words from on high.
>
> And seing either of you post from @bobsgreasyfish.com wouldn't have
> made the slightest bit of difference (to me anyway) in how the words
> were perceived.
>
> Don't get me wrong, though - I don't want to suggest that you and
> Suz shouldn't have strong opinions, and if I were in Huw's shoes I
> would have simply offered to remove my post but told you to go jump
> in a lake as far as the scans go, so this isn't a big deal to ME.
>
> But I'm still chuckling from the "I'm a different person if I post
> from this e-mail account" image. :)
>
> > Now, *I* never asked Huw to take his scans down -- I merely pointed out to
> > him that I thought it made us as a LEGO community look bad (in my opinion)
> > to have scans of that type up (especially so early).
>
> For the record, I disagree. Not so much that I think it makes the
> Lego community look GOOD, but merely that I think the scans as I saw
> them are about as controversial as a bowl of cold soup.
>
> > Let's be clear here: Huw can do as he pleases. That's the official LUGNET
> > word. (I'm posting this from a @lugnet.com address.) My personal opinion
>
> But you'd carry the same weight if you posted from
> @bobsgreasyfish.com ;) As long as you SAID it that way and made it
> clear.
>
> --
> The parts you want and nothing else?
> http://jaba.dtrh.com/ - Just Another Brick Auction
> Why pay eBay? Run your own LEGO auctions for free!
> http://www.guarded-inn.com/bricks/
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| (...) You mean create a fake identity? Nah... He just needs to realize that without flashing disclaimers and alarms going off, peole are going to read his words as having been uttered by THE MAN. And even with those things, they'll still carry some (...) (25 years ago, 7-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| (...) I don't want to get into the whole "if you and Suz say you really want someone to do something that doesn't necessarily mean they have to do it or become persona non grata around LUGNET" issue because, to some extent, I don't think it's worth (...) (25 years ago, 7-Dec-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
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