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Re: Important Geocities Info for anyone who uses them
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lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general
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Fri, 2 Jul 1999 01:52:37 GMT
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LORDINSANITY@USA.avoidspamNET
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Todd Lehman wrote:
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> In lugnet.general, Christopher Masi writes:
> > Well, actually they say that to post stuff on Yahoo! you have to turn over
> > your copyrights to us forever...don't they?
>
> I am not a lawyer, but I don't think so. As I read it, you grant them a
> royalty-free, irrevocable, non-exclusive, and fully sublicensable right to
> do whatever they please with your stuff. That's something quite different
> from turning over copyrights. Some additional wording notes:
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> - Royalty-free means that they don't have to pay you if they use your stuff.
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> - Irrevoacable means that you can't come back someday and tell them ever to
> stop using your stuff.
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> - Non-exclusive means that they can't claim exclusive rights to use your
> stuff (in other words you can always still use your stuff and sell it to
> other people, etc.)
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> - Fully sublicensable means that they can sell or license your stuff to
> third parties, and so on.
>
> These are fairly standard terms for online contributed content, and you'll
> see them almost everywhere. But usually only for things like forums. These
> are basically the same terms that lugnet.com has with regard to republishing
> of user-contributed content.
>
> > [...] I will not create a web page on any server that says we own the
> > content you have placed here. Since I am no trying to make money off of my
> > creations (couldn't even if I tried) I do not want a company coming in and
> > selling off my ideas and telling me I cannot sell them.
>
> I don't think they can go around and sell your ideas per se, but as I read
> it, they could -- if they wanted to (not that they ever would) -- sell or
> charge fees for copies of the information you have placed into their system.
> Or they can take snippets of it for advertising purposes. Or make a montage
> of a whole bunch of pages for advertising purpose. Or whatever. And not
> have to pay you a cent. But they can't tell you that you can't sell them
> anymore. You still own the copyright. That's quite standard, I believe.
>
> --Todd
Yes, this is all true, but you missed the part about they are allowed to
make deriviatve(spelling?) works off of your stuff. To people like
myself who like to make back story for things; Yahoo/Geocities could
take that and licence the right to make a movie or whatever off of the
idea and we wouldn't get squat. I have never seen this in another free
page.
--
-Lord Insanity
"A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men"
Visit me at: http://members.tripod.com/~LordInsanity
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