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Re: Message indexing awry?
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lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:40:47 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Gereon Stein wrote:
> In lugnet.admin.general, Ross Crawford wrote:
> > There appears to be something dicky happening with some message indexing.
> > 
> > Example 1: http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=13211 should be attached to
> > this post: http://news.lugnet.com/build/mecha/?n=13162
> > 
> > Example 2: (in the same thread): http://news.lugnet.com/fun/?n=1423 should be a
> > reply to: http://news.lugnet.com/storage/?n=1553 but appears beside it in the
> > tree display.
> > 
> > Example 3: http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=13207 should be a reply to:
> > http://news.lugnet.com/announce/?n=3007
> > 
> > There may be others, finding them is a bit hit n miss. One common thing I
> > noticed in those 3 cases is that the message and it's reply are in different
> > groups, and I'm wondering if messages have been moved but indexes not updated
> > correctly or something like that?
> 
> I couldn't say that messages have been moved, however if messages are set
> followup-to another group, then we obviously have a chance of hitting this
> issue.
> 
> I have yet to find a regularity with this behavior, since we have quite a large
> number of such followup-to cases, and most of them seem to work just fine. Then
> again, identifying message threads is not just the easiest thing under the sun,
> so eventually it may be just the hit'n'miss you mentioned, although the other
> way 'round...

Thanks for looking into this Gereon. I'm wondering whether this is a problem
with the NNTP server or a problem with extra meta-data stored specifically for
the web interface?

> > Example 4: (may not be related): In this post:
> > http://news.lugnet.com/build/mecha/?n=13160 the links to other posts all get 404
> > errors. The raw message shows they all have <url=...> which seems a bit strange.
> 
> Well that's an easy one: The links were just malformatted on message creation.
> If you look at the message source (or if your browser displays the link in the
> status line) you'll see the difference. The links in that message simply cannot
> work. If you need to follow the links, you can copy-paste the links and remove
> everything before the second "http".

Yeah I noticed the raw message seemed incorrect, but I couldn't remember seeing
the problem when I originally read the message. Maybe I just never clicked the
links the first time :)

ROSCO



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(...) I couldn't say that messages have been moved, however if messages are set followup-to another group, then we obviously have a chance of hitting this issue. I have yet to find a regularity with this behavior, since we have quite a large number (...) (20 years ago, 27-Nov-06, to lugnet.admin.general)

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