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All in favor? I think Frank just got himself a chair. (1) Rereading my post 2 refs back it looks like I was saying I'd be chair if asked. What I actually meant was I'd be a committee member if asked. 1 - Seriously... step one in organizing a (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.admin.council)
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Would you have any objection to theme search boxes for pause, Todd? I've pretty much figured out how to make one, but would it be ok with you? Alan This message's random set is: 6844, (URL) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Richard Franks wrote in message ... (...) Not sure I want to necessarily chair the council, currently I have time because things are directionless at work, but that seems to be changing. I guess I do have time to see this thing started, and once (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'll happily second Frank (if he's willing!) :) Richard (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I've been following this discussion with interest, it's very informative to watch a community go through a growing pain (which Lugnet is currently doing, IMHO), even a community I'm part of. Mostly just stating that I strongly concur that (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Eric says that we can't wrest authority away from Todd. Yes, I agree. However... If we come up with a clear proposal, well thought out, that's workable and that allows for some veto by Todd in extremis, I believe he will vest us with that authority. (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Valid, yes in that they are internally consistent. But broken in that they prevent things that are reasonable and necessary. (...) But I in fact said that cancellation DOES work and IS effective as a control technique. I then pointed out that (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Heh. It suuure would. eric (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Probably creating a new group... oooh say, admin.council would raise visibility ;-) Richard (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Oh, I didn't mean to imply that was what you were trying to say. I was just trying to point out one of the roadblocks to the community actually self-organising. (...) Totally agreed. (...) True. But we've taken several steps- someone suggested (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yep, point (b) was an extension of point (a).. see below. (...) Yep, I didn't mean to sound in any way disrespectful, as in assuming authority from Todd. What I meant is that I don't think that Todd is going to say "This is what is going to (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I, as well, feel this is important. If you are saying something, then it should be visible. If not concurrent with the event, then soon there after. I believe the Federal Reserve does this for some decisions (Fed Funds rate, etc). They (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) There's a problem with this. The theoretical panel has to inherit "power" from Todd. Right now, Todd is the only admin. Not only that, but he's the owner. I'm sure we've all seen posts that read, "Well, I might not agree, but it's Todd's (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) On the other hand... I personally think the panel should present a united front. This is why I think that the idea of appeals is not such a good one. Once something is being talked about by "the panel", it's pretty clear the T&C have been (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Agreed. But I think that one has been resolved, more or less, in that it appears that Todd has indicated that he would like for some sort of commitee to form. (...) Right. (...) Here, we disagree again. I think the T&C are perfectly valid as (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Actually, thinking on - in the majority of occurances - would deliberation be necessary? If a panel member replies to a mis-placed one-off auction announcement, with a note saying "Please don't do this, etc, etc", and cc's or cross-posts this to the (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I agree with the concept of concensus, but there isn't always a "right" way to go about something - there will be times when someone will never feel comfortable with a certain compromise. Rather than have a panel continually reiterate their (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Richard Franks wrote in message ... (...) panel (...) privacy? I (...) abilities, (...) when (...) be (...) powers? (...) means (...) takes (...) concensus (...) Well the idea of consensus is that you try and reach an agreement that everyone can (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I don't have a strong opinion either way, as it will only directly effect panel members anyway - but is the move towards a mailing list a desire for privacy? I always thought that newsgroups gave better structure and reference abilities, so if (...) (25 years ago, 20-Feb-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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