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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
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Thanks to a very timely arrival of engraved parts from Tommy Armstrong, I was
able to finish the assembly of my Coast Daylight passenger cars at the NMRA
show last week.
All photos and cad files on Brickshelf after moderation:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=311464
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Mathew:
Spotlighted!
Wow! I love that articulation work and the way you did your bogie plates. Some
ideas there that I have not seen before. The bricks Tommy did look great and I
love the color scheme of these cars. Thanks for the link to the ILTCO library
too. I always forget that is there. A lot of good information is contained
within.
Nice work!
-Dave
ToT-LUG
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
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Thanks to a very timely arrival of engraved parts from Tommy Armstrong, I was
able to finish the assembly of my Coast Daylight passenger cars at the NMRA
show last week.
All photos and cad files on Brickshelf after moderation:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=311464
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Fantastic work! I’ve always loved this train, the color scheme is just so
striking. The solution you’ve used to get the cars so close together is
something I very well may have to look into myself for my Tequila Sunrise. The
idea of having the engraved bricks included with the silver text looks real
slick, too.
I await with baited breath to see your finished steam engine, that one has
always been a favorite of mine.
--Tony
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
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Mathew Clayson
BAYLTC
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I’m terribly happy to see colourful passenger rakes make a comeback. I’m far too
lazy to make them myself but they do look excellent when done as well as this
one.
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
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Thanks to a very timely arrival of engraved parts from Tommy Armstrong, I was
able to finish the assembly of my Coast Daylight passenger cars at the NMRA
show last week.
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This is an absolutely stunning passenger train. The articulation of the cars
looks awesome and the engraved bricks work beautifully.
The GP9 looks a little out of place and I’m a big fan of steam so I’m eagerly
awaiting to see the steam engine you’ll have pulling this work of art.
Cale
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
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Thanks to a very timely arrival of engraved parts from Tommy Armstrong, I was
able to finish the assembly of my Coast Daylight passenger cars at the NMRA
show last week. • ...
I also still need to finish my Steam engin for pulling these cars. For the
show I used my Black widow GP9, coupled to another barrowed from Bruno in the
SCLTC.
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Very nice, it is great to see the old consists alive again in Lego and the
Daylights were just crying to be done. The lettering looks great and I can’t
wait to see how your GS4 turns out.
So how did you manage to get the non-articulated cars so close together around
the curves, also using the spring brick?
Benn
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I was able to see these in person at this year's NMRA show and they are as
described, and then some. A real sight to see. Thanks for bringing them to
the show Mat.
Ray Silva
socalray@cox.net
-----Original Message-----
From: news-gateway@lugnet.com [mailto:news-gateway@lugnet.com] On Behalf Of
Mathew Clayson
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:12 PM
To: lugnet.trains@lugnet.com
Subject: Dalylight train, Southern Pacific Coast
Thanks to a very timely arrival of engraved parts from Tommy Armstrong, I
was
able to finish the assembly of my Coast Daylight passenger cars at the NMRA
show
last week.
<<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/impact1/TRAINS/Daylight/dl_a3.jpg>>
All photos and cad files on Brickshelf after moderation:
<http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=311464>
I so far have an 8 car consist. The double and triple cars are articulated,
sharing a common truck at the articulation point. The double coach car has a
double axel, in my case I used a train motor. The triple dinner uses a 3
axel
truck, which is also articulated for the LEGO version for those tight
curves.
The shared truck sits under a block similar to what Steve Barile used on his
light rail train. The end connection between cars is spring loaded useing a
2 x
2 x 2&1/3 spring brick.
<<http://media.peeron.com/pics/inv/custpics/thumbs/2605c01.1071962619.jpg>>
This gives me a 1/2 stud spacing between cars when the train is stationary.
These all pass thrue normal curves and s curve just fine. It's amasing how
much
information is archived in the library at ILTCO
<http://www.iltco.org/library/>.
Look under Advanced Train Building.
A baggage coach combination car.
<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/impact1/TRAINS/Daylight/dl_b1.jpg>
A single coach car.
<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/impact1/TRAINS/Daylight/dl_c1.jpg>
A triple car Cafe/Kitchen/Dinner.
<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/impact1/TRAINS/Daylight/dl_d3.jpg>
<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/impact1/TRAINS/Daylight/dl_d2.jpg>
<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/impact1/TRAINS/Daylight/dl_d1.jpg>
A double coach car.
<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/impact1/TRAINS/Daylight/dl_e1.jpg>
And a lounge observation car.
<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/impact1/TRAINS/Daylight/dl_i1.jpg>
The "SOUTHERN" and "PACIFIC" bricks were made by Tommy Armstong, the Brick
Engraver <http://www.brickengraver.com/prod02.htm>. I really love the lookof
this train, and the engraved bricks with the silvergrey lettering really
make a
big difference. The font is a slightly compressed version if the "Southern
Pacific Extended" font, by our own Benn Coifman at his Rail Fonts site.
<http://www.railfonts.com/cgi/font_shop/fontshop.cgi?ACTION=enter&thispage=p
age8.html#>
I still need to add the daylight logo decals to the side boards. But I
wanted to
wait until all the bricks were in place. And there just wasn't time durring
the
show.
I also still need to finish my Steam engin for pulling these cars. For the
show
I used my Black widow GP9, coupled to another barrowed from Bruno in the
SCLTC.
<<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/impact1/TRAINS/Daylight/dl_a1.jpg>>
Mathew Clayson
BAYLTC
<<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/impact1/TRAINS/Daylight/a0.gif>>
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In lugnet.trains, Cale Leiphart wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
This is an absolutely stunning passenger train. The articulation of the cars
looks awesome and the engraved bricks work beautifully.
The GP9 looks a little out of place and I’m a big fan of steam so I’m eagerly
awaiting to see the steam engine you’ll have pulling this work of art.
Cale
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Thanks Cale.
I agree the GP9 is wrong, but the only “correct” Deisels would be E7A, E8A, E9A
or PA2, and E7Bs mix and matched in pairs. But the only PA I own is in Rio Grand
colors, and I own no E units.
My GP9 is modeled after SP5623, which was a passenger engine, with steam
generator. But mostly ran commuter cars in the San Francisco Bay Area. So it did
connect to the Daylight. 8) But never pulled it to my knowledge.
I am planning to finish my GS4, but I’m tempted to build a E7 pair as well.
Mat
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In lugnet.trains, Dave Sterling wrote:
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Wow! I love that articulation work and the way you did your bogie plates.
Some ideas there that I have not seen before. The bricks Tommy did look
great and I love the color scheme of these cars. Thanks for the link to the
ILTCO library too. I always forget that is there. A lot of good information
is contained within.
Nice work!
-Dave
ToT-LUG
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Thanks Dave,
Yes, all of the articulation in my train is a riff of whats’s shown at the ILTCO
presentaion, although I originally found the ideas here on LUGNET first. The
shared car articulation is based on work by Steve Barile
http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/565. The close coupling I worked out myself,
but is remorkably similar to earlier designs. So I must have absorbed the idea
in the past and redisigned it based on the same part.. But why re-invent the
train wheel. 8)
Mat
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In lugnet.trains, Benn Coifman wrote:
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Very nice, it is great to see the old consists alive again in Lego and the
Daylights were just crying to be done. The lettering looks great and I can’t
wait to see how your GS4 turns out.
So how did you manage to get the non-articulated cars so close together
around the curves, also using the spring brick?
Benn
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Thanks Benn,
I had spotted the Daylight while researching long passenger train consists a few
years ago, when working on my Caifornia Zephyr train. The DL was beutiful, but
seemed impossible to do justice at the time, how would I get all that orange,
and the red texured 1x2s. And the that articulation would be impossible n LEGO!
Then a few months ago I spotted the photos and consist data I’d saved while
rebuilding a computer and sifting though the backups. It had to be done. And
what better “California” (where I live) passenger train after completeing my CZ.
I’ll be hard pressed to match the work of other builders for the GS-4. Ben
Fleske did 4449 Engine 9 years ago, it’s beutiful. And it ran long before he
developed his large Steam drivers!
http://www.bigbenbricks.com/ben/lego/4449daylight/daylight.htm The orange
brick must have cost a fortune back then.
The non articulated connecions all use the spring brick I mentioned before. This
works well because I don’t have 4 wide vestibules on the ends of the cars.
Otherwise they might get hung up, I’m not sure. The other LEGO examples I’ve
seen had a single 4 wide on one car, but not the other. The Daylight had full
width vestibules, so 6 wide was perfect.
The articulated cars use a rubber band that is hiddin inside the cars, just
above the floor boards. You can just see it in the following photo. In the right
hand gap, just above the grey plates.
I’m standing on the shoulders of giants.
Mat
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In lugnet.trains, Ray Silva wrote:
> I was able to see these in person at this year's NMRA show and they are as
> described, and then some. A real sight to see. Thanks for bringing them to
> the show Mat.
>
> Ray Silva
> socalray@cox.net
Thanks Ray,
I really wanted to run this on the Bay Area/Southern Pacific combined layout, it
seemed symbolic.
Mat
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
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I had spotted the Daylight while researching long passenger train consists a
few years ago, when working on my Caifornia Zephyr train. The DL was
beutiful, but seemed impossible to do justice at the time, how would I get
all that orange, and the red texured 1x2s. And the that articulation would be
impossible n LEGO! Then a few months ago I spotted the photos and consist
data I’d saved while rebuilding a computer and sifting though the backups. It
had to be done. And what better “California” (where I live) passenger train
after completeing my CZ.
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Hey Mat,
You completed the CZ??? Please share photos. I saw the D&RGW Alcos in the
background, but no cars.
Wow, them were some impressive trains. I like the 2000 era show photos.
Now jumping to your reply to Cale...
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I am planning to finish my GS4, but I’m tempted to build a E7 pair as well.
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At least with my first steam engine I found it was nice to have a pair of
diesels for shows. The Hiawatha ran great on the flat floor at home, but man it
still isn’t too crazy about the wobbly tables at shows.
Benn
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In lugnet.trains, Benn Coifman wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
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I had spotted the Daylight while researching long passenger train consists a
few years ago,
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And what better “California” (where I live)
passenger train after completeing my CZ.
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Hey Mat,
You completed the CZ??? Please share photos. I saw the D&RGW Alcos in the
background, but no cars.
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Yea, I’ve had the CZ for awhile now, And I didn’t think to take pictures at the
show. I’ll see about doing so if I can ever get unchained to my desk at work.
So Far I have a baggag car, two dome cars, a diner, a sleeper, a chair car and a
dome observation. As well as a WP F3A/F3B/FP7A lashup. And of course the Rio
Grand ALCO pair are also accurate for pulling this train.
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Now jumping to your reply to Cale...
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tempted to build a E7 pair as well.
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At least with my first steam engine I found it was nice to have a pair of
diesels for shows. The Hiawatha ran great on the flat floor at home, but man
it still isn’t too crazy about the wobbly tables at shows.
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That’s part of it. The steam engine would be unpowered if I made the wheel
spacing proportional to the prototype. I’d then use a pair of motor in the
tender. That with the motor as the shared truck on the twin chair car. should be
eneough to pull the train, but pushing a large engine tends to make is picky
regarding track.
But mostly I just haven’t gotten around to building my own E7 yet, and this is a
good excuse. Although it should be paired with a ALCO PB unit!
Mat
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