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Rutland Boxcar #104
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One of the positive sides of all the recent talk of 9v trains is that it got me building again. I don’t usually post renders, but I liked the way this one turned out, and I don’t (yet) have the pieces to build it.

Here is my version of Rutland Railroad’s boxcar #104:



Prototype information is here. Reading through that page, there is some debate about the color of the roof on the original cars. I went with yellow since that’s what most of the eyewitnesses claim to remember.

Sadly, the Rutland died back in the 1960’s, but the bright green and yellow boxcars make excellent models. The door is based on Chris Masi’s excellent opening door design, which has become my default for boxcars. Sticker .dat’s were generated using Scott Wardlaw’s sticker generator, and the trucks are those that were featured in the first issue of RailBricks.

-Elroy

   
         
     
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Re: Rutland Boxcar #104
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   Sticker .dat’s were generated using Scott Wardlaw’s sticker generator, and > the trucks are those that were featured in the first issue of RailBricks.

-Elroy

That looks awesome! I’m also glad to know that my Sticker Generator software is being used. If you have any ideas on how to improve the software, please let me know.

Again, really great looking model of such a historic box car!

Scott

    
          
     
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Re: Rutland Boxcar #104
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In lugnet.trains, Scott Wardlaw wrote:
  
   Sticker .dat’s were generated using Scott Wardlaw’s sticker generator, and
   the trucks are those that were featured in the first issue of RailBricks.

-Elroy

That looks awesome! I’m also glad to know that my Sticker Generator software is being used. If you have any ideas on how to improve the software, please let me know.

Again, really great looking model of such a historic box car!

Scott

Thanks Scott. Your sticker generator was great. Very simple to install and use. The only suggestion would be to add in an error message if the .bmp file isn’t in the correct format. I kept forgetting to save in the right format, which either crashed the generator, or MLcad. Once I had the original in the correct format though, everything was nice and smooth.

-Elroy

   
         
   
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Re: Rutland Boxcar #104
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Elroy Davis wrote:
One of the positive sides of all the recent talk of 9v trains is that it got me
building again.  I don't usually post renders, but I liked the way this one
turned out, and I don't (yet) have the pieces to build it.

Here is my version of Rutland Railroad's boxcar #104:

<<http://www.nelug.org/mediagallery/mediaobjects/disp/7/7_rutlandboxcar.jpg>>

Prototype information is <http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/PS1.htm here>.  Reading
through that page, there is some debate about the color of the roof on the
original cars.  I went with yellow since that's what most of the eyewitnesses
claim to remember.

Sadly, the Rutland died back in the 1960's, but the bright green and yellow
boxcars make excellent models.  The door is based on Chris Masi's excellent
opening door design, which has become my default for boxcars.  Sticker .dat's
were generated using Scott Wardlaw's sticker generator, and the trucks are those
that were featured in the first issue of RailBricks.

-Elroy

Great boxcar Elroy, and thanks for the nod... but if we spreading credit
around, then I should let you know that the slide is based on a
suggestion by James Mathis. On the other hand, you deserve all the
credit for coming up with a great model. I can't wait to see it on the
layout.

Chris

--
http://mysite.verizon.net/cjmasi/lego/

Learn about brittle bone disease
http://www.oif.org/

   
         
     
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Re: Rutland Boxcar #104
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Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:50:06 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
Elroy Davis wrote:
The door is based on Chris Masi's excellent
opening door design, which has become my default for boxcars.

Great boxcar Elroy, and thanks for the nod... but if we spreading credit
around, then I should let you know that the slide is based on a
suggestion by James Mathis. On the other hand, you deserve all the
credit for coming up with a great model. I can't wait to see it on the
layout.

Chris

Thanks Chris.  That door design is great.  It's the best brick built solution
I've found that still allows the interior of the car to be used.

Now that I've got the boxcar design, I'm tempted to build a few, plus a Rutland
diesel locomotive and caboose to go with them.  I may build a Rutland steamer
first though.

So many projects, so little time.

-Elroy

   
         
   
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Re: Rutland Boxcar #104
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In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
Elroy Davis wrote:
One of the positive sides of all the recent talk of 9v trains is that it got me
building again.  I don't usually post renders, but I liked the way this one
turned out, and I don't (yet) have the pieces to build it.

Here is my version of Rutland Railroad's boxcar #104:

<<http://www.nelug.org/mediagallery/mediaobjects/disp/7/7_rutlandboxcar.jpg>>

Prototype information is <http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/PS1.htm here>.  Reading
through that page, there is some debate about the color of the roof on the
original cars.  I went with yellow since that's what most of the eyewitnesses
claim to remember.

Sadly, the Rutland died back in the 1960's, but the bright green and yellow
boxcars make excellent models.  The door is based on Chris Masi's excellent
opening door design, which has become my default for boxcars.  Sticker .dat's
were generated using Scott Wardlaw's sticker generator, and the trucks are those
that were featured in the first issue of RailBricks.

-Elroy

Great boxcar Elroy, and thanks for the nod... but if we spreading credit
around, then I should let you know that the slide is based on a
suggestion by James Mathis. On the other hand, you deserve all the
credit for coming up with a great model. I can't wait to see it on the
layout.


What is the "opening door design"? Are there some examples of the method being
use? I did a search on LUGNET and came up empty.

jt

   
         
     
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Re: Rutland Boxcar #104
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James J. Trobaugh wrote:
In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
Elroy Davis wrote:
One of the positive sides of all the recent talk of 9v trains is that it got me
building again.  I don't usually post renders, but I liked the way this one
turned out, and I don't (yet) have the pieces to build it.

Here is my version of Rutland Railroad's boxcar #104:

<<http://www.nelug.org/mediagallery/mediaobjects/disp/7/7_rutlandboxcar.jpg>>

Prototype information is <http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/PS1.htm here>.  Reading
through that page, there is some debate about the color of the roof on the
original cars.  I went with yellow since that's what most of the eyewitnesses
claim to remember.

Sadly, the Rutland died back in the 1960's, but the bright green and yellow
boxcars make excellent models.  The door is based on Chris Masi's excellent
opening door design, which has become my default for boxcars.  Sticker .dat's
were generated using Scott Wardlaw's sticker generator, and the trucks are those
that were featured in the first issue of RailBricks.

-Elroy
Great boxcar Elroy, and thanks for the nod... but if we spreading credit
around, then I should let you know that the slide is based on a
suggestion by James Mathis. On the other hand, you deserve all the
credit for coming up with a great model. I can't wait to see it on the
layout.


What is the "opening door design"? Are there some examples of the method being
use? I did a search on LUGNET and came up empty.

jt

Hey james,

   I just used some 1x1-stud-on-side bricks and some 1x2x1 panels or
1x2x2 brackets to hold the doors in place. I put a couple of mpd's up here

http://mysite.verizon.net/cjmasi/lego/boxcar_alt_door_alt_ladder.mpd.zip
and
http://mysite.verizon.net/cjmasi/lego/boxcar.mpd.zip

if you want to download them and check out the details. They are spaced
just right, so the studs on the bottom of the boxcar guides the door on
the battom, and a 1xn plate on the top guides the door at the top.
They're not perfect, but they work pretty well.


Chris

--
http://mysite.verizon.net/cjmasi/lego/

Learn about brittle bone disease
http://www.oif.org/

    
          
     
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Re: Rutland Boxcar #104
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Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:07:10 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
James J. Trobaugh wrote:
In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
Elroy Davis wrote:
One of the positive sides of all the recent talk of 9v trains is that it got me
building again.  I don't usually post renders, but I liked the way this one
turned out, and I don't (yet) have the pieces to build it.

Here is my version of Rutland Railroad's boxcar #104:

<<http://www.nelug.org/mediagallery/mediaobjects/disp/7/7_rutlandboxcar.jpg>>

Prototype information is <http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/PS1.htm here>.  Reading
through that page, there is some debate about the color of the roof on the
original cars.  I went with yellow since that's what most of the eyewitnesses
claim to remember.

Sadly, the Rutland died back in the 1960's, but the bright green and yellow
boxcars make excellent models.  The door is based on Chris Masi's excellent
opening door design, which has become my default for boxcars.  Sticker .dat's
were generated using Scott Wardlaw's sticker generator, and the trucks are those
that were featured in the first issue of RailBricks.

-Elroy
Great boxcar Elroy, and thanks for the nod... but if we spreading credit
around, then I should let you know that the slide is based on a
suggestion by James Mathis. On the other hand, you deserve all the
credit for coming up with a great model. I can't wait to see it on the
layout.


What is the "opening door design"? Are there some examples of the method being
use? I did a search on LUGNET and came up empty.

jt

Hey james,

   I just used some 1x1-stud-on-side bricks and some 1x2x1 panels or
1x2x2 brackets to hold the doors in place. I put a couple of mpd's up here

http://mysite.verizon.net/cjmasi/lego/boxcar_alt_door_alt_ladder.mpd.zip
and
http://mysite.verizon.net/cjmasi/lego/boxcar.mpd.zip

if you want to download them and check out the details. They are spaced
just right, so the studs on the bottom of the boxcar guides the door on
the battom, and a 1xn plate on the top guides the door at the top.
They're not perfect, but they work pretty well.



Very cool, I'll have to sit down and try building a door like this. I must have
missed this method when folks first started using it.

I have been using a method a bit different, I put two hinged windows on the back
of a plate and then have them hook into a set of rails. When you pull on the
door slightly the door will unlock and slide open, to close you slide the door
closed and then press gently and it will lock in place:

You can see what I'm talking about here:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=62420

    
          
      
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Re: Rutland Boxcar #104
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In lugnet.trains, James Trobaugh wrote:

Very cool, I'll have to sit down and try building a door like this. I must have
missed this method when folks first started using it.

I have been using a method a bit different, I put two hinged windows on the back
of a plate and then have them hook into a set of rails. When you pull on the
door slightly the door will unlock and slide open, to close you slide the door
closed and then press gently and it will lock in place:

You can see what I'm talking about here:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=62420

That's really clever.  I could see using that on a stock car where the inside
wouldn't be hidden as much.  I'll have to try that out.

-Elroy

    
          
     
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Re: Rutland Boxcar #104
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James J. Trobaugh wrote:
In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
James J. Trobaugh wrote:
In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:

[...]

Hey james,

   I just used some 1x1-stud-on-side bricks and some 1x2x1 panels or
1x2x2 brackets to hold the doors in place. I put a couple of mpd's up here

http://mysite.verizon.net/cjmasi/lego/boxcar_alt_door_alt_ladder.mpd.zip
and
http://mysite.verizon.net/cjmasi/lego/boxcar.mpd.zip

if you want to download them and check out the details. They are spaced
just right, so the studs on the bottom of the boxcar guide the door on
the bottom, and a 1xn plate on the top guides the door at the top.
They're not perfect, but they work pretty well.



Very cool, I'll have to sit down and try building a door like this. I must have
missed this method when folks first started using it.

I have been using a method a bit different, I put two hinged windows on the back
of a plate and then have them hook into a set of rails. When you pull on the
door slightly the door will unlock and slide open, to close you slide the door
closed and then press gently and it will lock in place:

You can see what I'm talking about here:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=62420

Yep, I remember that technique. Very cool. I didn't use that technique
because I usually build with the bricks at hand, and I don't have many
of those windshields.

Chris
--
http://mysite.verizon.net/cjmasi/lego/

Learn about brittle bone disease
http://www.oif.org/

   
         
   
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Re: Rutland Boxcar #104
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In lugnet.trains, James Trobaugh wrote:
   What is the “opening door design”? Are there some examples of the method being use? I did a search on LUGNET and came up empty.

jt

This brickshelf gallery has a pretty good example of it. The version I used is slightly different, but the basic idea is the same.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=194414

Basically, use two plates, back to back, held together with a couple of bricks with studs on both sides. The door then slides along a tile on the bottom and a plate on the top. The plates with the door rails help keep the door aligned.

-Elroy

 

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